General Hux changes

"McGregor;c-2031863" wrote:

"Borat;c-2031856" wrote:
I understand the anger towards CG but really, this isn't a nerf rather a correction. He is a FO leader, why would he help non FO teams. Granted, CG should have realized this before releasing him, but faction toons should really only help faction teams. Why would Hux help Sith Empire or Rebels? He has no business being on those teams. If he had a neutral tag, then maybe but he clearly has a FO tag and should only help as such. It would be like AA helping Thrawn and Co. get extra attacks or Traya boosting Ren. Stop looking for reasons to crucify CG, they give us enough on their own but this I Cannot agree with the anger. You all should have known this would be changed regardless if it was taking out the meta that Hux should not be helping no FO teams.

With respect I'm not sure I fully agree here. Didn't they say he was designed to be similar to Thrawn and a plug-and-play/theory crafter? Thrawn's facture and TM swap works regardless of team setup. Additionally, from the Q&As they seem to want to diversify things?

actually cg said similar to Thrawn with respect to him manipulating the battle field but all else in their discussion about his kit was about his synergy to FO. Absolutely nothing about Plug and Play anywhere. There was a lack of leadership in the FO faction and that is what they were going for. Also, Thrawn's leadership does not help anyone but Empire.

"Borat;c-2031879" wrote:

"McGregor;c-2031863" wrote:

"Borat;c-2031856" wrote:
I understand the anger towards CG but really, this isn't a nerf rather a correction. He is a FO leader, why would he help non FO teams. Granted, CG should have realized this before releasing him, but faction toons should really only help faction teams. Why would Hux help Sith Empire or Rebels? He has no business being on those teams. If he had a neutral tag, then maybe but he clearly has a FO tag and should only help as such. It would be like AA helping Thrawn and Co. get extra attacks or Traya boosting Ren. Stop looking for reasons to crucify CG, they give us enough on their own but this I Cannot agree with the anger. You all should have known this would be changed regardless if it was taking out the meta that Hux should not be helping no FO teams.

With respect I'm not sure I fully agree here. Didn't they say he was designed to be similar to Thrawn and a plug-and-play/theory crafter? Thrawn's facture and TM swap works regardless of team setup. Additionally, from the Q&As they seem to want to diversify things?

actually cg said similar to Thrawn with respect to him manipulating the battle field but all else in their discussion about his kit was about his synergy to FO. Absolutely nothing about Plug and Play anywhere. There was a lack of leadership in the FO faction and that is what they were going for. Also, Thrawn's leadership does not help anyone but Empire.

I haven't memorised the forums but if you're right then fair enough, it's just pretty poor design/testing on their part and another thing to frustrate some of the players unfortunately.

Regardless of anyone's feelings/position/thoughts, if you think you won't need him at g12+ and with his zeta for the new Rey or Kylo, keep him at 3*, level 1 but if you have him at 4* g12 with zeta you are 1/2 to the requirement and I am sure at 7* he will make a FO team an absolute beast in TB, TW and GAC. Not so sure about Arena yet but we shall see.

"McGregor;c-2031882" wrote:

"Borat;c-2031879" wrote:

"McGregor;c-2031863" wrote:

"Borat;c-2031856" wrote:
I understand the anger towards CG but really, this isn't a nerf rather a correction. He is a FO leader, why would he help non FO teams. Granted, CG should have realized this before releasing him, but faction toons should really only help faction teams. Why would Hux help Sith Empire or Rebels? He has no business being on those teams. If he had a neutral tag, then maybe but he clearly has a FO tag and should only help as such. It would be like AA helping Thrawn and Co. get extra attacks or Traya boosting Ren. Stop looking for reasons to crucify CG, they give us enough on their own but this I Cannot agree with the anger. You all should have known this would be changed regardless if it was taking out the meta that Hux should not be helping no FO teams.

With respect I'm not sure I fully agree here. Didn't they say he was designed to be similar to Thrawn and a plug-and-play/theory crafter? Thrawn's facture and TM swap works regardless of team setup. Additionally, from the Q&As they seem to want to diversify things?

actually cg said similar to Thrawn with respect to him manipulating the battle field but all else in their discussion about his kit was about his synergy to FO. Absolutely nothing about Plug and Play anywhere. There was a lack of leadership in the FO faction and that is what they were going for. Also, Thrawn's leadership does not help anyone but Empire.

I haven't memorised the forums but if you're right then fair enough, it's just pretty poor design/testing on their part and another thing to frustrate some of the players unfortunately.

No argument there about the testing. Hands down should have been FO only at the inception. Unless they wanted him to be a thrawn but didn't realize his affect on GAS teams. That is another debate all together and one I am not touching for fear of the beating I may receive from those who don't agree with my position (which will remain private)

Agreed, and if he's going to be used in Arena then we're likely looking at R5 across the board, as it seems things can either be B+ for free, or A+ with a huge paywall. I'm genuinely looking forward to the new Rey/Kylo releases now we have the journey guide.

"Borat;c-2031856" wrote:
I understand the anger towards CG but really, this isn't a nerf rather a correction. He is a FO leader, why would he help non FO teams. Granted, CG should have realized this before releasing him, but faction toons should really only help faction teams

Here is a short list of toons that have abilities which help all toons not only their factions:
AA- Tactical Genius
B2 - Relentless Barrage
Bastila Shan - Rally
Darth Traya - Isolate (CD reduction and Prot Up)

I am not even half way on the list. Let's not assume that CG has nerfed it because it doesn't make sense to use it outside of his faction. They nerfed it because it was affecting GA$

Edit: I am perfectly fine with him being a FO focused character but they should either release him with FO focused kit or refund zeta material when making such changes

Edit #2: Seems like they are refunding the zeta. It's my bad

This is a great change!

"slmcmr;c-2031900" wrote:

"Borat;c-2031856" wrote:
I understand the anger towards CG but really, this isn't a nerf rather a correction. He is a FO leader, why would he help non FO teams. Granted, CG should have realized this before releasing him, but faction toons should really only help faction teams

Here is a short list of toons that have abilities which help all toons not only their factions:
AA- Tactical Genius
B2 - Relentless Barrage
Bastila Shan - Rally
Darth Traya - Isolate (CD reduction and Prot Up)

I am not even half way on the list. Let's not assume that CG has nerfed it because it doesn't make sense to use ut outside of his faction. They nerfed it because it was affecting GA$

They nerfed it because it was too powerful in their opinion (in hindsight). Why else nerf something?

"slmcmr;c-2031900" wrote:


Here is a short list of toons that have abilities which help all toons not only their factions:
AA- Tactical Genius
B2 - Relentless Barrage
Bastila Shan - Rally
Darth Traya - Isolate (CD reduction and Prot Up)

I am not even half way on the list. Let's not assume that CG has nerfed it because it doesn't make sense to use it outside of his faction. They nerfed it because it was affecting GA$

Edit: I am perfectly fine with him being a FO focused character but they should either release him with FO focused kit or refund zeta material when making such changes

They will be refunding the zeta mats.

"We understand that this may change your calculation around investing in this character. Accordingly, we will be setting Hux’s Unique and Leader to level 1 for all players and returning any materials you applied in the same update."

Oh i must have missed the refund part, my bad