Introducing Pack Probabilities [MEGA]

Haha number 4 yeah gotta cover your tracks about dodgy business practice in the past now that it's public

"TyloRen;d-180239" wrote:
Character Release Cadence, and a number of community tools. Pack probabilities can help aid you in making decisions about what to go for and when.

Probability Overview
We’ve been working to put together information on pack probabilities across all the different packs in the store and describe it as clearly as possible. Along with sharing the specifics of our pack probabilities (and some things we’ve updated along the way), we would like to provide additional understanding around how our packs work overall.

If you’d like to skip straight to the disclosure page, it’s available here and will be direct linked from the details page of every crystal pack in the store after our TU13 client update.

If you’d like some more specific information about additional changes we have made, please read on.



Pack Probabilities Overview

There are many different packs and pack types in Galaxy of Heroes, many of which have different probabilities. However, there are no “dynamic odds”. We don’t change pack probabilities or outcomes based on any player behavior or criteria.

You will get something of value in every pack. However, as many of you are aware, some of our packs have low probabilities for larger amount of character shards/ship blueprints. For example, a single character marquee pack will most likely net between 5 and 7 shards (more often 7). However, there are opportunities to receive significantly higher shard counts in packs as well.

The pack probabilities are not a guarantee of outcome. Every time you open a pack is an independent event. Getting a high shard count in one pack does not mean you will definitely get a low count on the next pack. The probabilities reset with every pack.

We’ve taken this opportunity to improve the way a few of our packs work. As the game has evolved, we’ve found that some of the previous designs needed an overhaul. As an example, we’re doing away with the “new” and “old” character/ship distinctions, because that’s become a bit outdated and becomes excessively complicated with the more items we have in the game. The probability of getting any one character/ship within a pack will be equal across all characters/ships in a pack (unless otherwise noted). This will mainly be noticeable in Fleet Packs.

Any future changes to the pack probabilities will be updated on the website, and we will make sure to draw your attention to those changes via patch notes.

We’re hoping these additional changes will provide information that improves your game experience. As always, we evaluate the probabilities alongside other game mechanics and will communicate any additional updates we make in the future.
And as always, we’ll see you on the Holotables,
-Carrie

DEV POST

Ok so some good stuff here, how does it feel to be “transparent” now? Must be difficult. I’m sure this decision was not internal but brought on by external “influence”. Why not reword the chance of pulling 330 shards out of a toon pack, you say there is a chance to get 330 but there really isn’t. A 0.01% is virtually the closest to a 0% chance. Honesty is always the best policy.

"Kyno;c-1633470" wrote:

"JerryHello;c-1633445" wrote:

"3pourr2;c-1633396" wrote:

"nickshanks;c-1633362" wrote:
I am wondering how you were able to get away with not providing this information already. Since buying packs constitutes a form of gambling and you are legally required to disclose the odds (at least here, in the EU), I just assumed you already did, somewhere (not being a pay-to-play user, I never looked too hard in the packs area). CG_Carrie, can you explain? Is there some sort of grace period? How come these data were not public before?

In US they worked around by using crystal purchases not counting same as paying cash.

Not entirely true. Every other Gacha game was forced to be transparent with the drop rates when Apple enacted a new policy month's ago. It's odd that this game is just now posting those rates...Also a lot other countries are clamping down on mobile gacha (mystery box) style games because of the gambling aspect. This game which only has a global version is ultimately subject to all those legal changes.

You should go look at that again. Apple made a valed gesture and that is all. They specifically worded it so companies would have huge loopholes and could walk right through. This and many other games are in no way violating the changes that Apple made by keeping it business as usual from before Apple made that change.

It wasn't a veiled gesture...In March Apple prevented multiple games that failed to comply by the deadline or didnt comply enough from applying their updates in the IOS store. It also resulted in other games postponing their own updates until they were in compliance. Nintendo's - Fire Emblem Heroes, Square Enix's - Final Fantasy Brave Exvius and Blizzard's -Hearthstone were all affected among others.

I'm sure there were plenty of loopholes that were exploited. I was just pointing out that it was odd that this game managed to avoid it.

Those rates are cringe worthy!!

"JerryHello;c-1633664" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1633470" wrote:

"JerryHello;c-1633445" wrote:

"3pourr2;c-1633396" wrote:

"nickshanks;c-1633362" wrote:
I am wondering how you were able to get away with not providing this information already. Since buying packs constitutes a form of gambling and you are legally required to disclose the odds (at least here, in the EU), I just assumed you already did, somewhere (not being a pay-to-play user, I never looked too hard in the packs area). CG_Carrie, can you explain? Is there some sort of grace period? How come these data were not public before?

In US they worked around by using crystal purchases not counting same as paying cash.

Not entirely true. Every other Gacha game was forced to be transparent with the drop rates when Apple enacted a new policy month's ago. It's odd that this game is just now posting those rates...Also a lot other countries are clamping down on mobile gacha (mystery box) style games because of the gambling aspect. This game which only has a global version is ultimately subject to all those legal changes.

You should go look at that again. Apple made a valed gesture and that is all. They specifically worded it so companies would have huge loopholes and could walk right through. This and many other games are in no way violating the changes that Apple made by keeping it business as usual from before Apple made that change.

It wasn't a veiled gesture...In March Apple prevented multiple games that failed to comply by the deadline or didnt comply enough from applying their updates in the IOS store. It also resulted in other games postponing their own updates until they were in compliance. Nintendo's - Fire Emblem Heroes, Square Enix's - Final Fantasy Brave Exvius and Blizzard's -Hearthstone were all affected among others.

I'm sure there were plenty of loopholes that were exploited. I was just pointing out that it was odd that this game managed to avoid it.

Correct me if Im Wrong here. But the difference with what you mention and here is the chance for zero , swgoh always provides an item, just cuz it’s not what you wanted quantity wise, does not make it the same as other outfits that has zero as an option on the roll

Well done for doing something you have been forced do by law in many places and dressing it up like you are doing a good thing for us

Chromium packs needs an overall. They are bloated with heroes. It would be nice to retire a bunch of the legacy heroes from chromium and slot more into bronze packs. Make both pack more enticing.

Why does the first page have people thanking them for this? lol. I've seen games have to do this as a mandatory thing if they are in Japan, seeing rates has become a normal thing to see in Gacha games, its not a "Step in the right direction" its them finally doing it. Honestly I never expected them to do it really unless they were forced to cause of country laws like those other games were forced too :D.

And we already knew the rates were terrible.

Edit: reading above, it would be interesting if this game also did banner type events, actually put some meaning into people buying chrome packs during character releases. I know in Final Fantasy Brave Exvius the weekly banners can be quite exciting if it has a hero you've been wanting and saved up for, spam those summons till you either get it or have nothing left, but at least the chances are way higher to get what you been saving in preparation for.

When they start telling us farming droprates and telling us when they make changes to them, or equalize odds on raid rewards for all available gear instead of creating choke points, then I will start using the word transparent.

Wow... EA making a rash decision to display odds and make less money. Maybe now people will wise up and not waste money on 7 shards. Just wait for them to hit the store if you’re going to spend money. To be perfectly honest, this data should have been available since day 1, the odds are absolutely pathetic.