Jedi Master Mace Windu Team Feels Over-Invested and Under-Performing

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Hi CG team / CG_Meathead​&nbsp;I would like to give feedback on the recently released Jedi Master Mace Windu and Jedi Vanguard team.On paper, this looks like the premium release of 2025:6 new marquees at Relic 5 to unlock JMMWA Conquest character4 Grand Arena OmicronsThis reads like a high investment, meta defining team. However, after testing in Grand Arena, the team currently fails to perform at the level expected given the massive resource requirements.Concerns:1. Countered by too many established teams. Despite the heavy requirements, many older squads reliably beat it.2. Investment does not match performance. A 2025 journey character, plus a 2025 conquest character, plus 4 Omicrons. The return does not reflect that.3. Jocasta Nu does not add enough to the squad. If the team is already winning, she eventually pulls out her rifle and makes it easier. If the team is losing, she rarely changes the outcome.4. Revealed mechanic limitations. The inability to apply Revealed to Sith dramatically narrows the team's competitive value.Conclusion:The performance does not match the very high investment. Players are spending relics, omicrons, and working hard to get the latest conquest character, only to see the squad lose to older counters. A small balance pass to improve consistency would make this team feel worth building.Thanks for your time.

masterseedy · Answer

Yeah, they're a raid team primarily, with excellent Territory Battles utility, entirely replacing GL squads in RotE even on r9 planets (which is important since the deeper you go in TB the more GLs are required for Ops missions). Jocasta Nu goes with KBeq. Aayla goes with JMMW. As Zanir says, it works against a wide variety of GAC B-teams (even without those 4 GAC omicrons).

Perhaps the problem is that you're adding GAC omicrons to a squad that isn't built for GAC?

Oh, and This:

On paper, this looks like the premium release of 2025:

This is just silly. Obviously Pirate King Hondo is the premium release of 2025. Why would you expect a Legendary to be better than a GL?

zanirn7s · Answer

I like JVs on offense to kick in the teeth of back wall B teams, they slaughter ROTE CMs, and they get me points in the raid quickly and reliably. Not every new team has to dominate every single game mode. I'm getting plenty of value out of JMMW.&nbsp;

tannerdzs · Answer

And that's why Relic Delta is happening🤣🤣🤣&nbsp;

range1974 · Answer

Maybe use them on offense then

mgkkain · Answer

In the journey guide it's in the top half of the tier 4 journeys. Unlike gungans it isnt really in the top of the pvp meta but it also isnt useless High relic for the raid make it great for tb several planets especially ones with multiples waves are easier with the team. it isnt a journey i would go out of my way for depending how serious your guild takes the raid

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