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Chemisecomp1598's avatar
6 years ago

Let's argue on characters tags !

As I know many will disagree I just want this to be more of a debate more than a bashing :

As time goes by, characters are something getting new tags/changing their tags. I don't know if many of you remember of the huge debate before Old Ben rework and the fact he gained the rebel tag but it was basically the same as I'm going to propose.

Why wouldn't Sidious get a Separatist Tag ?
I'll weigh the pros and cons :
- Yes because : he was the true leader, behind everyone back. He gave orders to Dooku and then General Greivous and finally to Anakin and manipulated everyone to achieve his ultimate goal.
- No because as stated before, he wasn't the official face of the CSI and he probably would have killed separatists if they were in his direct way.

Why wouldn't Assaj get a Sith tag ?
- Yes because she was a Sith apprentice, as Maul and Savage and she used the training, even limited, of her master to become strong. She even eventually became so strong that Sidious felt the threat and asked Dooku to kill her, which he failed to do so. She then seeked revenge, as a Sith would do.
- No because she was an apprentice, again as Maul and Savage.

Why wouldn't Maul and Savage get the Separatist tag ?
- Yes because they were apprentice of Sith leading the separatist (respectively Sidious and Tyranus), they were the premise of it. Separatist appeared around that time with Nute leading them after receiving order from Sidious.
- No because they eventually turned their back and went on their own ways to get revenge on the people who betrayed them.


But for all of them, it still makes sense to add the tags because they were part of the movement, as Assaj is a separatist even though she also turned on them after she was betrayed by Dooku. And to add more, we are talking for a new tag for this characters, not adjusting the abilities (maybe for sidious at least but the other were not really separatist leaders).
It would give variety to people rosters and we'll most likely still have a use for them in the Geo TB, even Sidious might be a leader of Separatist in a special mission or something (even if this is not likely to happen).
  • Visas was from the old republic era, after apprenticeship to nihilus she lived in old republic territory and teamed up with Jedi to prevent further tragedy on old republic stuff and Jedi, she should have both Jedi and old republic tags. Maybe make a grey Jedi tag to prevent any issues?
  • HKFactory's avatar
    HKFactory
    Seasoned Rookie
    Honestly, if visas was given the Jedi faction tag, she would probably make short work of a ton of Sith teams and even most of the characters in Sith empire teams because of her constant assists against Sith enemies, and not to mention her healing capabilities.
  • "Tialel;c-1864169" wrote:
    I know this seems to be focused on separatists, but I also have some issues with the Old Republic/Sith Empire Tags... specifically Visas Marr.

    Sith empire refers to the time before the 'Rule of Two' was implemented by Darth Bane... So it stands to reason that Sion/Nihilus/Traya should receive this tag. Obviously that would make them too OP. They already have amazing synergies with each other as it is, so I understand the decision to not apply the tag.

    Visas Marr, on the other hand, has no faction synergy. She was created to be the STR end all, be all healer - but her value for the raid has decreased substantially. Why not grant her the Old Republic tag to boost her viability outside of the raid?


    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Visas_Marr
  • What I'm wondering is if Fulcrum Ahsoka should get the Phoenix tag. She may not have been part of Phoenix Squadron, but she was part of the Phoenix Rebel Cell
  • Hey happy to argue tags!
    In general I want more tags to allow more variety in synergies especially for characters with very little use.
    1. Tuskens should at least be scoundrels! Why not let them work with other scoundrels?
    2. Sidious should not be separatists....he should be republic! He manipulated separatists for his own ends but it seems he had every intention of destroying them in the end. And I would love to see evil republic characters. He literally directed the clones to kill all the Jedi....who were also republic...but don’t be confused...the separatists wanted Sidius dead...they just got outmaneuvered.
    3. Maul could be separatist...he at least fought for them and wanted them to win...possibly not knowing Sidius full plan. (Maybe Sidius did not expect things to work out this way either?)
    4. Asajh should be sith! She was not a Sith Lord but please...what a joke it is that she is not sith because she was an apprentice! Maul and Dooku were all also going through an apprenticeship....the rule of two was just a method some sith used to restrict who learned all the sith secrets. She also was a bounty hunter, though you could argue she only did that after she quit being a sith. But I see no reason for her not to work with bounty hunters....though if you wanted a second bounty hunter version of her I’d be ok with that.