Dear Devs,I would like to make some suggestion to the part of the game creating the most disappointment: mods. Mods are the root of all other problems (GW, AAT, etc), as with incredible mods you can post outstanding score,The problem with mods is 80% of the optimal combinations of mods require only one set of mods: primary speed on arrow, triangle with crit damage/chance, cross with offense/potency, circle with protection all of them with the most speed secondaries.The last point is what cause troubles to players, not only should players farm for the right primary and bonus set, but then they have to prey RNG god to get an A-B quality mod and that speed secondary are hit during the leveling process.I am suggesting some idea to diminish the craziness.1. Offer the ability to reroll the secondary stats increase again: basically, return the mods to base stat and let the players spend again his credit get the desired secondary speed. (This could be crystal based).2. Increase drop rate.I hope you got my message and you will a solution to this illness of the game.Kind regards

Re-rolling sounds awful. How about no rng, and all the stats increase at a consistent rate?

I've already posted the Mod craziness:In case you need one matching Mod:1:3 Chance for a Mod to drop1:6 chance to get Receiver1:5 Chance for Rarity (soon 1:7)1:5 Chance for Quality1:8 (?) for Primary1:8 (?) for Secondary Speed1:6 for high stat on 2ndary Speed1:4 to get speed up at level 31:6 to get max stat added to 2ndary Speed1:4 speed up at level 61:6 max stat added1:4 speed at level 91:6 max stat added1:4 speed at level 121:6 max stat addedThese odds are worse if you take care of the drop chances for Rarity and QualityMaybe if one or two other secondaries would be better than Speed, it will be more balanced and less frustrating...Rock - Paper - Scissors example:Crit immunity -> crit chance/crit damage -> health -> speed -> protection/defense -> offense -> Crit immunity....Something like that....

Good mods should b difficult to come by. This is just another case of "gimme everything now, i have no patience". There is nothing unfair. Everyone has the same chances at the same mods that everyone else has, provided u have the team to open them and 3* the 3rd challenge. Mods, like everything else, is a grind. So what if someone else has faster secondary speed than u do ? It could have just as easily been your mod. Luck of the draw.

Yeah why are you complaining about a gambling game hiding behind the Star Wars name tag????

Oh sorry, I re-read. You are saying that instead of being based upon how 'lucky' you are in the mod gamble, some sort of skill/strategy should be more important?

Mods: give back control to players

ARC-CaptainRex
8 years ago
Re-rolling sounds awful. How about no rng, and all the stats increase at a consistent rate?
theHejiN
8 years ago
I've already posted the Mod craziness:

In case you need one matching Mod:

1:3 Chance for a Mod to drop
1:6 chance to get Receiver
1:5 Chance for Rarity (soon 1:7)
1:5 Chance for Quality
1:8 (?) for Primary
1:8 (?) for Secondary Speed
1:6 for high stat on 2ndary Speed
1:4 to get speed up at level 3
1:6 to get max stat added to 2ndary Speed
1:4 speed up at level 6
1:6 max stat added
1:4 speed at level 9
1:6 max stat added
1:4 speed at level 12
1:6 max stat added

These odds are worse if you take care of the drop chances for Rarity and Quality

Maybe if one or two other secondaries would be better than Speed, it will be more balanced and less frustrating...

Rock - Paper - Scissors example:

Crit immunity -> crit chance/crit damage -> health -> speed -> protection/defense -> offense -> Crit immunity....

Something like that....
Poxx70
8 years ago
Good mods should b difficult to come by. This is just another case of "gimme everything now, i have no patience". There is nothing unfair. Everyone has the same chances at the same mods that everyone else has, provided u have the team to open them and 3* the 3rd challenge. Mods, like everything else, is a grind.

So what if someone else has faster secondary speed than u do ? It could have just as easily been your mod. Luck of the draw.
PaulG91172
8 years ago
Yeah why are you complaining about a gambling game hiding behind the Star Wars name tag????
PaulG91172
8 years ago
Oh sorry, I re-read.

You are saying that instead of being based upon how 'lucky' you are in the mod gamble, some sort of skill/strategy should be more important?
NyKynoe
8 years ago
Just give us one lvl of selection, we now have to rng for shape, primary, and dot (3,4,5)

Let us farm at 5 dot.
Or
Primary
Or
Shape

If they gave us one of those and kept drop rates the same we would have a greater chance to get what we need. Shape would be best, if they did shape and 5 dot, I would literally **** myself.
ARC-CaptainRex
8 years ago
"Poxx;797105" wrote:
Good mods should b difficult to come by. This is just another case of "gimme everything now, i have no patience". There is nothing unfair. Everyone has the same chances at the same mods that everyone else has, provided u have the team to open them and 3* the 3rd challenge. Mods, like everything else, is a grind.

So what if someone else has faster secondary speed than u do ? It could have just as easily been your mod. Luck of the draw.

It's more of a paywall argument. There is not a single aspect of this game where everyone has the same chance. You spend hoards of cash, you have a better chance at better mods. I didn't mind it so much, but with the AAT raid, there is enormous pressure to have the perfect mods (especially speed secondaries).
Poxx70
8 years ago
"CaptainRex;797197" wrote:
"Poxx;797105" wrote:
Good mods should b difficult to come by. This is just another case of "gimme everything now, i have no patience". There is nothing unfair. Everyone has the same chances at the same mods that everyone else has, provided u have the team to open them and 3* the 3rd challenge. Mods, like everything else, is a grind.

So what if someone else has faster secondary speed than u do ? It could have just as easily been your mod. Luck of the draw.

It's more of a paywall argument. There is not a single aspect of this game where everyone has the same chance. You spend hoards of cash, you have a better chance at better mods. I didn't mind it so much, but with the AAT raid, there is enormous pressure to have the perfect mods (especially speed secondaries).

If u r f2p...nothing wrong with that btw, what makes u think u should b competitive w/ p2p on all fronts ? Compete for personal bests, coompete w/ other f2p. U dont have to b #1 to have fun.

Ever play a MMORPG ? Did u complain that your low-lvl toon didn't get invites to the newest, biggest, baddest dungeon for the best gear or did u accept that u weren't rdy and worked towards it ?

At least the rng gives u a chance at the best mods vs. no chance. Consider yourself lucky.
WrathofCaedus
8 years ago
"Poxx;797105" wrote:
Good mods should b difficult to come by. This is just another case of "gimme everything now, i have no patience". There is nothing unfair. Everyone has the same chances at the same mods that everyone else has, provided u have the team to open them and 3* the 3rd challenge. Mods, like everything else, is a grind.

So what if someone else has faster secondary speed than u do ? It could have just as easily been your mod. Luck of the draw.

That's not true since drop rates were nerfed AFTER whales had the chance to farm literally thousands of mods to choose from, this is definitely not the case anymore
shakaw
8 years ago
"DarthMasterShawn;797347" wrote:
"CaptainRex;797197" wrote:
"Poxx;797105" wrote:
Good mods should b difficult to come by. This is just another case of "gimme everything now, i have no patience". There is nothing unfair. Everyone has the same chances at the same mods that everyone else has, provided u have the team to open them and 3* the 3rd challenge. Mods, like everything else, is a grind.

So what if someone else has faster secondary speed than u do ? It could have just as easily been your mod. Luck of the draw.

It's more of a paywall argument. There is not a single aspect of this game where everyone has the same chance. You spend hoards of cash, you have a better chance at better mods. I didn't mind it so much, but with the AAT raid, there is enormous pressure to have the perfect mods (especially speed secondaries).

You don't have a better chance as in odds you have a better chance due to volume. I have a ton of great F2P players in my guild that have awesome mods. They put in major farming effort to get them putting other things on hold. You have the option to do that too, it is a choice. Also I have total respect for F2p. I simply lack patience to do it if I'm honest. I say this not to be rude, but to be real. Why should you get to be equal in ever aspect, especially something like mods with people dropping serious cash on them when you do not? People talk of fair, how is that fair? Should your Chevy Cruise go as fast and perform as good as the Corvette another spent a ton more money on? No, so why should you get the same mods as one that spent a ton of money on them? F2P does not limit your mods. I have several F2P in my guild that have mods on par with P2P and even high P2P because they made it their entire Cantina focus until they got what they felt was good. That is very respectable. Heck 2 of them have a higher speed secondary than any of mine and I'm a whale. My thoughts, they deserved it for the hard work and commitment to go all in on them.

To the OP I'd honestly not mind a reroll. So often I've bought an expensive mod in hopes the speed climbs only to bust.

Exactly! The game is free to play, but pay to win. Everyone plays for free, that includes whales. The merchandise being sold here is being a winner. Unlike the traditional games of the past victories are not earned by skill, dedication or even luck. Victories are earned with cold hard cash, so if you want people to drool while pointing at you in awe, you are going to have to pay up.
Don't dispair though, if you want to join the upper echelons and look down upon the grey masses from your golden pedestal, you don't have to buy a ferrari, you can do so for a price of a few bottles of champagne.

To OP
I think a much simpler solution would be to make the secodary stats .. .well ...secondary. It kinda lies in the name, the primary stat should be the important one, and the secondary - a bonus. It should not overshadow the primary stat.