Moff Gideon

"MasterSeedy;c-2228445" wrote:

I don’t know if I’d need to take anyone to r5 at all now for that. I’ve got a team for each phase already.

Starving man says to full man: We all have to eat.

Full man says to starving man: No, that's not true. I don't need to eat at all. I just finished eating 30 minutes ago.

The fact that you have toons at r5 for RCT is proof not just that we need r5 toons for RCT (we knew that) but further proof that you think it's worth taking toons to r5 for RCT.

No, you don't need to take every single toon in your inventory to r5, just every single toon you're going to use in RCT, which is exactly what i said:

or, wait, every single toon you're ever going to use in Rancor Challenge Tier, even the ones you're going to feed to Rancor to reset the cooldown of its devour ability in p2 & p3.

In order to get things done in the game, you need a variety of r5 toons for a variety of purposes, including but not limited to getting GLs, fighting Rancor, completing LS TB missions, and for those of us whose guild is close enough that it will make a difference, completing DS TB missions in p4. Obviously there's overlap for many of those toons, but not nearly all. Ahsoka is required at r5+ for her mission with GAS in LS TB p2. GAS is not required for any GL, but is required at r5 for LS TB. GAS is not required, but can be useful depending on your available GLs & other toons in the Rancor raid.

So, yeah, the game requires r5 for a bunch of things, and it requires low-level relics for even more, but you get a lot more out of that r1 toon by taking it to r5 and the investment required is minimal in comparison to the benefit.

So me? I'll keep doing that. I'm not sure how many relic toons I have, but it's well over 50 and I'm not done r5ing folks yet.

As for your statement about GAC:

Those who keep a careful watch on their matchmaking GP would argue the cost is facing more difficult opponents in GAC.
I’m not one of those people, by the way, but those people would definitely provide that counter argument.

Yep, they would. In fact, Konju showed up to make just that argument before I could even notice your comment.

Like you, I think it's a bad argument. Winning GAC is probably a lot of fun, sure, but the return on your investment is minimal compared to, say, taking top3 in even a single HSTR. Besides, that argument could be used to avoid taking your characters to g10 just as easily as taking your characters to relic-whatever. Refusing to improve your roster because GAC would get harder has no logical endpoint. Might as well quit the game lest you accidentally get a tough matchup & loose.

I hate that kind of thinking. I'd much rather (and it seems you would too, though I'm not trying to speak for you) see my roster improve every week and lose some GAC rounds than sit on my thumbs & beg the game gods to make everything easy for me.

There’s a difference between improving your roster while keeping gac in mind and not improving your roster. I don’t know anyone who just doesn’t touch their roster so they can do well in gac. As you said, what would be the point? But they also don’t r3-7 just bc the toon would be better.

You said “So, yeah, the game requires r5 for a bunch of things, and it requires low-level relics for even more, but you get a lot more out of that r1 toon by taking it to r5 and the investment required is minimal in comparison to the benefit.”

In your opinion you get a lot more out of that r1 toon by going to r5. People who want to do better in gac have come to the opposite conclusion. And that’s fine imo. Ftr, the people I know who do well in gac also complete cpit, do well in geotb etc