Currently doing the Naboo raid and after dozens of attempts it seems the raid has gotten tougher rather than easier? The enemies seems to be faster and have more health? Is anyone else noticing it got tougher after CG mentioned they’d be making it easier?
First of all, I'd like to say that is the kind of response I like seeing during discussions. I understand you likely didn't mean to, but you did indeed sound a bit dismissive in previous posts. Not everyone is going to have the same relics, mods, etc., and especially the same RNG as you, so not everyone is going to have the same success rates. You can acknowledge your and other players' achievements while still understanding everyone else's concerns.
Second, yeah, that Maul team is a pain in the butt. R5 Gungans, I have little to no trouble getting a max score (the only actual problem I have is that Protection Disruption is still being applied to Gungans). The Lumi and KB teams, I can get the max score or at least be one wave away from getting it, but the RNG and mechanics that make those teams work are ridiculous, especially with the bonus turn modifier, and I often have to restart several times. The Maul team, however, takes all those things to absurd degrees, I even agree with what you said in a previous post about TM being reset each wave, especially if the wave includes STAP and it inflicts Provoked (I am also quite annoyed with the autofill thing, but we're on the topic of the battles themselves, so I digress). One attempt, regardless of team, I can get close to max, the other I'm not even close to max while the enemy is almost to enrage. As I have said, I am at almost 5M in the raid, I've made very little actual changes, I'm still playing the same tiers each time, yet it just seems more frustrating than usual. It's the ridiculous RNG and underwhelming mechanics (for players that is) that just make it feel like the raid is somehow more difficult than last time. That (along with what I said in the first paragraph) is what I've been trying to point out.
And yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if those predictions you made ended up coming true. With the Krayt raid, I can go in with non-optimal mods (non-optimal in the sense that they are not god-tier but not pathetic either) and still get the max score, or at least a good one, because: A) the teams/toons themselves were strong and still widely used, B) the bonuses made even the lesser teams (Jawas for example) decently strong and less RNG-dependent. With the Naboo raid, we have to gear up mostly lously toons, the player bonuses are minimal for most tiers, while the enemy and enemy modifiers are ridiculously overpowered for any tier. I once tried putting my GL mods on the Maul team, the difference was minimal. There was still excessive RNG, the mechanics were still heavily tuned to the enemies' advantage, I still would get stuck behind DDKs with the bonus turn thing. If we improve our teams and move on to a higher tier (let me rephrase that, a higher tier that is not the HIGHEST tier), we should see some rise in difficulty while also being able to actually benefit from those improvements. Instead, it seems like we're being punished for not having everything instantly maxed out and with the best possible mods. A lot of players seem to be getting POW and MQG to R9, but that's in part because of a different event (Duel of Fates). I shudder to think of what the next raid will look like.
Of course you can share opinions and complaints - if I’ve appeared dismissive, I apologise. That was probably caused by another poster unhelpfully suggesting I worked for the company, which is an unconstructive contribution.
Freedom of speech does work both ways, of course, so I think it’s fine for me to post that I have not made the same observations.
One thing I have definitely observed is that different members of my guild have difficulties with different teams. I get 2.7m with the QA team every raid and this is almost always on first attempt. Someone else finds that team very unreliable and they’ve found it incredibly difficult to get 3.6M on the top tier. I don’t think I’ve ever taken more than one run to get 1.8m with Beq, but others in the guild find that team infuriating.
The team I have had most issues with is Darth Maul, Sidious and Nute. I got 1.8m easily with them in the first 3 or 4 raids, but since then I’ve had wildly inconsistent fortunes with them. Sometimes I’ve restarted well over a dozen times and others I’ve got max score first attempt. In the last 2 raids I’ve just accepted a score below 1.8m because the guild is comfortably earning the 265m box, so I don’t need the hassle for what amounts to 0.1% of the target box total. Others in my guild get 1.8m with this team with barely any restarts, though. I don’t think this signifies a change in the mechanics though, I think I was just lucky in the early raids.
Looking at this raid and the 2 before it, I do think there are some clear predictions for what we can expect in the next few raids…
I can totally understand why some consider this a “downward spiral”. Most players don’t appreciate having their priorities set for them.
Yes, it's just a feeling, and yes, I may very well be wrong, but I see nothing wrong with sharing it. Unless I'm mistaken, we're supposed to be regular people playing a mobile game. We're not laywers or policemen, and this certainly isn't a murder investigation. If it's to accuse someone else of cheating, that's a serious claim that could potentially get at least one player into trouble, so yes players should have evidence to support it. As to almost everything else, we should be able to share our opinions or complaints without having everything we say be scrutinized or dismissed simply because we didn't defend it with cold, hard data. Freedom of speech and all that.
Each of your 3 criticisms is dead on.
I get just under 5M with Gungans, Quadme, 1 x Jedi and B2/Maul/Sidious. My scores massively improved since day one same as a reduction in number of repeats. The RNG for me is consistent now with previous raids. So I am wondering why others are still having such a massive issue this far in. My Jedi team still has 5 dot mods so it’s not even massively a modding issue. But I do need to swap mods for Quadme team to get a specific speed order. I had to do that on previous raids though for some squads where turn order or speed is important though.
Maybe I’ve just been lucky, but I don’t have any difficulties with the raid. I can usually get a max score on the first try with 2 different Jedi Squads and max score with B2/Maul/Sidious team… getting around the 4.25m score seems to be fairly easy tbh 🤷🏻♂️
It is just a feeling though - and I know many players who have a feeling that the raid has not changed in difficulty at all.
There are many aspects to the current raid I dislike…
So I’m not some raid-apologist for CG. I just think there’s zero substance to claims about the raid getting harder, and citing previous times that CG made errors as evidence for this theoretical raid adjustment is about as flimsy as evidence gets.
Is that aimed at me?
Suggesting I refute anything bad about the game is a spurious and demonstrably false claim - just like some of the claims in this thread about the raid suddenly being made more difficult, ironically.
The problem is consistency. You run the same team and get wildly different results. I'm guess it is in part due to whichever buff the lead BD gets. I could get full score with my R5 Gungans, but it took me a dozen tries today to get it. By comparison, I only had to reset once with my Lumi team, and that was even with losing a toon halfway through on my second run. I think repeatable results would be really helpful. I'm still trying to get max scores with QA and Sids/Maul teams, but it doesn't seem worth the investment and stress of getting all the right mods and such just to get a few 100K more in score.
Well when you work foe the company to come to the forums and refute anything bad about the game, you would disagree with any criticisms. Jfc...
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