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- I just fought the same NS team twice to gauge their effectiveness. From a PVP perspective, they are deadlier than they were. I normally railroad most NS teams with EP, but because of the new mechanics Plague became a major issue. The team was able to beat me the first time due to toons being weakened by plague and revivals from basics. The second time I managed to win, but plague was still an issue.
Looks like they definitely received a buff in PVP. "Chewy88;c-1654213" wrote:
"ThePegasus1979;c-1654207" wrote:
Thanks! Did you find it at all difficult to maintain Zombie stacking her speed between deaths?
Zombie never died, if it was low on HP I just used Asajj‘s first special, which heals. And due to the Talzon lead mechanic I could do up 3 heals per errm „downs“ of Treya.
So basically you’re saying her whole mechanic is shot out of the water?
The mechanic of Death Storm involves Talzin and another Nightsister dying over and over. Having a tanky Zombie doesn't affect that at all, and in fact helps keep Daka and Ventress protected while they stack their health and damage respectively."HK22;c-1654217" wrote:
I just fought the same NS team twice to gauge their effectiveness. From a PVP perspective, they are deadlier than they were. I normally railroad most NS teams with EP, but because of the new mechanics Plague became a major issue. The team was able to beat me the first time due to toons being weakened by plague and revivals from basics. The second time I managed to win, but plague was still an issue.
Looks like they definitely received a buff in PVP.
Most people didn’t farm these toons for pvp they got farmed for the raid and for Tb. They aren’t on my list for pvp."Chewy88;c-1654213" wrote:
"ThePegasus1979;c-1654207" wrote:
Thanks! Did you find it at all difficult to maintain Zombie stacking her speed between deaths?
Zombie never died, if it was low on HP I just used Asajj‘s first special, which heals. And due to the Talzon lead mechanic I could do up 3 heals per errm „downs“ of Treya.
So basically you’re saying her whole mechanic is shot out of the water?
As you might have figured out for sure at this point, i am not a native speaker, so i don’t know what „shot out of the water“ means. My guess is „trying to „fix“/nerf something and because someone doesn’t know how it works, he achieves the opposite“: yes, actually if ppl do upgrade, or not upgrade, the new skill, you will see much higher numbers by every player who understands the mechanics of NS in P3 and P4 of the SR.
I always wished that Zombie‘s first special would heal the team (especially for P4), as that would soloing P4 much easier. And CG „nerf“...introduces exact that feature. A clearer sign of pure and utter incompetence of understanding the own product has not been seen in the software industry for decades."ThePegasus1979;c-1654226" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1654213" wrote:
"ThePegasus1979;c-1654207" wrote:
Thanks! Did you find it at all difficult to maintain Zombie stacking her speed between deaths?
Zombie never died, if it was low on HP I just used Asajj‘s first special, which heals. And due to the Talzon lead mechanic I could do up 3 heals per errm „downs“ of Treya.
So basically you’re saying her whole mechanic is shot out of the water?
As you might have figured out for sure at this point, i am not a native speaker, so i don’t know what „shot out of the water“ means. My guess is „trying to „fix“/nerf something and because someone doesn’t know how it works, he achieves the opposite“: yes, actually if ppl do upgrade, or not upgrade, the new skill, you will see much higher numbers by every player who understands the mechanics of NS in P3 and P4 of the SR.
You said your zombie never died. If it never dies than the mechanic which drives the night sisters being deaths on the field is basically ruined. If your zombie didn’t die then the Nightsisters as a faction received a nerf due to this rework."Chewy88;c-1654230" wrote:
"ThePegasus1979;c-1654226" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1654213" wrote:
"ThePegasus1979;c-1654207" wrote:
Thanks! Did you find it at all difficult to maintain Zombie stacking her speed between deaths?
Zombie never died, if it was low on HP I just used Asajj‘s first special, which heals. And due to the Talzon lead mechanic I could do up 3 heals per errm „downs“ of Treya.
So basically you’re saying her whole mechanic is shot out of the water?
As you might have figured out for sure at this point, i am not a native speaker, so i don’t know what „shot out of the water“ means. My guess is „trying to „fix“/nerf something and because someone doesn’t know how it works, he achieves the opposite“: yes, actually if ppl do upgrade, or not upgrade, the new skill, you will see much higher numbers by every player who understands the mechanics of NS in P3 and P4 of the SR.
You said your zombie never died. If it never dies than the mechanic which drives the night sisters being deaths on the field is basically ruined. If your zombie didn’t die then the Nightsisters as a faction received a nerf due to this rework.
No, he is saying he intentionally made decisions to keep his Zombie alive so as to best maintain her stacking speed and not deal with loss of speed. AND likely to soak up Isolate. Talzin and Initiate still continued to die over and over to benefit the team and maintain deaths and revives powering the Nightsisters.- @CG_TopHat or whoever. Does the damage from stacks of pain in p4 equate to +50% speed, assuming zombie doesn’t suffer a death, at the start of her next turn?
You said your zombie never died. If it never dies than the mechanic which drives the night sisters being deaths on the field is basically ruined. If your zombie didn’t die then the Nightsisters as a faction received a nerf due to this rework.
Nope, P3 done right always relied on Zombie NOT dying but soaking up Isolation reliably. P3, done right, relies on everyone dying fast besides Asajj, Zombie and Daka. With the changes: just don’t get fooled/trapped by the new special. ;) P4...nope, never was about Zombie dying. Zombie dying helped, but was not even close to be a relevant part of the soloing strat. The changes with speed up massively fuels up P3 strat, and the team heal on the first special massively fuels up the P4 strat."yohann269;c-1654181" wrote:
"Pan2218;c-1654170" wrote:
"yohann269;c-1654039" wrote:
"CommanderRacheon;c-1654035" wrote:
WOW. Just came on a few minutes ago and there were 205 comments from when I last checked THIS MORNING!! You guys need to calm down a bit and just wait for the rework to happen and try it instead of blowing up a chat with either positive or negative comments.
I agree
Why would you wait for what you know? All of the information anybody that uses them for the STR should know by reading & time spent in game. & dont try to tell me to enjoy my cherrios while everybody else is eating coco puffs! No do not tell people to calm down!!! This is flat insult
you have no idea what you are talking about :)
Apparently somebody doesnt. But go ahead guy, what's up then? Bring it, what exactly don't I know?"DyloBin;c-1654233" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1654230" wrote:
"ThePegasus1979;c-1654226" wrote:
"Chewy88;c-1654213" wrote:
"ThePegasus1979;c-1654207" wrote:
Thanks! Did you find it at all difficult to maintain Zombie stacking her speed between deaths?
Zombie never died, if it was low on HP I just used Asajj‘s first special, which heals. And due to the Talzon lead mechanic I could do up 3 heals per errm „downs“ of Treya.
So basically you’re saying her whole mechanic is shot out of the water?
As you might have figured out for sure at this point, i am not a native speaker, so i don’t know what „shot out of the water“ means. My guess is „trying to „fix“/nerf something and because someone doesn’t know how it works, he achieves the opposite“: yes, actually if ppl do upgrade, or not upgrade, the new skill, you will see much higher numbers by every player who understands the mechanics of NS in P3 and P4 of the SR.
You said your zombie never died. If it never dies than the mechanic which drives the night sisters being deaths on the field is basically ruined. If your zombie didn’t die then the Nightsisters as a faction received a nerf due to this rework.
No, he is saying he intentionally made decisions to keep his Zombie alive so as to best maintain her stacking speed and not deal with loss of speed. Talzin and Initiate still continued to die over and over to benefit the team and maintain deaths and revives powering the Nightsisters.
From what he said it looks like it didn’t work that way at all I think you’d better reread it because he’s saying that CG has no understanding of the mechanics
