PSA: Chase drop rates have been lowered

"InyakSolomon88;c-2352238" wrote:

"Ravens1113;c-2352226" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2352223" wrote:

"Ralakili0383;c-2352212" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2352149" wrote:

"Wraith_Squadron;c-2352138" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2352067" wrote:

"Wraith_Squadron;c-2352056" wrote:

"CCyrilS;c-2352053" wrote:

"UncleOnceler;c-2352050" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2341961" wrote:

"Wrathe;c-2341960" wrote:
I'm just surprised no one has been slapped in the face yet. :wink:

Someone accusing CG of a "slap in the face" is also assuming this was done on purpose. Given CG's track record, it was probably completely accidental. They just aren't smart enough to have noticed they did it so they could tell us about it.

I'm pretty sure violations of Google play requirements is the same whether on purpose or not.

How's it a violation of anything?

One, if so inclined, could argue (1) that data provided indicates the drop rate for the previous galactic chase was in fact 3% rather than 4%, (2) CG was aware of or should have been aware of the reduction in the shard drop rate, (3) CG failed to properly notify its customers of the aforementioned change, (4) due to the aforementioned change in the shard drop rate, players received fewer shards when spending in game currency resulting in some players purchasing more in game currency to make up for the reduced shard drop rate, and (5) CG’s failure to notify its customers in this matter is tantamount to fraudulent and deceptive advertising practices.

EA is especially sensitive to these kind of issues due to the various legal actions taken against them because of “loot boxes” as well as other well known mobile games being sued for deceptive and predatory practices. These are merely some of the issues that I would be concerned with if were corporate counsel for CG.

Lots of leaps being made here, that frogger was able to get to the other side

Interesting analogy. Feel free to expand and converse rather than offer a snarky quip. No? Then move along muppet.

Drop rates are subject to change, it was true back when they claimed it was 4% and there is no law stating CG has to announce publicly when drop rates are changed. What is true today can be changed next week and they will have every right to do so

What they lose is consumer confidence

But you just said they made 5 violations, so post the google play’s specific violations from their terms of service unless you made up the fact that your bullet points are violations without checking and confirming if it violated the play store

Then why reply with false and made up information?

1. Not a play store violation
2. Not a play store violation
3. Please post where in the play store guidelines this is a violation
4. Business decision - not a play store violation
5. lol - consult a lawyer - the play store doesn’t demand they announce drop rate changes

I didn’t want to expand the conversation because you made up the violations without looking at the play store and didn’t want to further make believe conversations that aren’t grounded in reality

If you can leave the insults behind and actually do your research before commenting on posts with facts, then we can continue conversing :smile:

Instead of making this lengthy post you could spend your energy getting CG to reply to what the community wants to know. @CG_Tusken_Meathead isn't really any more active than Crumb. Both community managers are rather inactive at best.

Already spent my energy for the day

If only the devs would spend a fraction of their energy and communicate with us….

Too busy thinking up new packs to sell.

I still want to know what Crumb does all day. Usually the answer is something like "meetings," but I can't imagine why he would need to spend 39h55m in meetings for 5 minutes of communication each week.

"StarSon;c-2352241" wrote:

I still want to know what Crumb does all day. Usually the answer is something like "meetings," but I can't imagine why he would need to spend 39h55m in meetings for 5 minutes of communication each week.

Surfs these forums giggling at all our frustration & complaints?

"Iy4oy4s;c-2352401" wrote:
Its laughable to me that Meathead can post in a conquest thread, which has no CM statement in it, but completely ignore this 10-page massive thread. We all know CG is low, but to see it in action over and over again is discouraging...

Perhaps there's nothing to add?

"Ravens1113;c-2352410" wrote:

"CCyrilS;c-2352406" wrote:

"Iy4oy4s;c-2352401" wrote:
Its laughable to me that Meathead can post in a conquest thread, which has no CM statement in it, but completely ignore this 10-page massive thread. We all know CG is low, but to see it in action over and over again is discouraging...

Perhaps there's nothing to add?

There is something to add. More so, plenty to answer for.

1.) Why the drop rate was changed from 4 to 3% intentionally or unintentionally

2.) Why there’s been zero answers for this outside of Doja saying he would reach out before resigning from CG

3.) Why they refuse to let the mods answer us when they themselves have the answer.


I don’t mind Meathead being in other threads, but I have a massive issue with him either purposely or being ordered to avoid hot topic/controversial topics such as this. They’re tanking customer/player trust with their actions lately or rather lack of.

I know there's info we'd like. What I mean is, if there's nothing he can add, what's the point of posting. Would you feel better if another person said "I'll check and get back to ya..."?

"Ultra;c-2351092" wrote:

"Jesse36;c-2350931" wrote:
@CG_Tusken_Meathead while we appreciate hearing about your cat, your favorite letter, and your favorite color, this is the sort of thing we actually want to know.

He can't talk about this since this was a thing before he joined and he's not too familiar with the issue to speak on it, and there is lots of other things he needs to catch up on

"TargetEadu;c-2351077" wrote:
Ultra ? Crumb? Anyone?

idk whats going on with the delay, and i've stopped following up for an official response

Lol, you’re ridiculous. He can’t comment because the question was asked before he joined? Here let me catch him up. We want to know if/why the drop rate was changed and now we also want to know why CG refused to acknowledge our question.

Simple. He’s caught up.

"TargetEadu;c-2352635" wrote:
Has there ever been something like this where devs just refuse to answer something? I know things like buffing SEE or LV are similar but those usually get a cursory “we’re looking into it” to start.

Yes.

As far as the drop rate issue is concerned, we don't need the CM to answer on this anymore, imo

We have enough player data to make our own conclusions, so I think its best to move on from it

At this point, you are just stressing yourself over it

"Ultra;c-2352665" wrote:

"TargetEadu;c-2352635" wrote:
Has there ever been something like this where devs just refuse to answer something? I know things like buffing SEE or LV are similar but those usually get a cursory “we’re looking into it” to start.

Yes.

As far as the drop rate issue is concerned, we don't need the CM to answer on this anymore, imo

We have enough player data to make our own conclusions, so I think its best to move on from it

At this point, you are just stressing yourself over it

ooof...."nothing to see here folks, move along" I thought you were better than that Ultra. THEY said they would give us answer, therefore, we want an answer. Its not best to move on from it, its best that CG gives us what they said that they would. Whatever happened to customer service?

I don’t understand the hate against Ultra? The only one who’s actually talking to us and being honest. CG is rotten at communication and transparency as always. But Ultra is the only one actually going above and beyond.

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"HumbleMumble;c-2352719" wrote:
I don’t understand the hate against Ultra? The only one who’s actually talking to us and being honest. CG is rotten at communication and transparency as always. But Ultra is the only one actually going above and beyond.

The nature of this makes it really, really hard to understand where the block is coming from. Maybe Ultra knows something, maybe she doesn’t. Maybe if she says something she loses her mod position, maybe she doesn’t. Same for Doja, Crumb, and now Meathead: they might just be being stonewalled by the Devs for an answer, they might have an answer but be blocked from communicating it, or they might just be refusing out of their own will. No real way to tell, we just have to judge from what we know of the people.

I’m more in the blame-the-devs camp than blaming the CMs or the site mods, but my main point is somewhere there’s a block that shouldn’t be there.

"Ultra;c-2352665" wrote:

"TargetEadu;c-2352635" wrote:
Has there ever been something like this where devs just refuse to answer something? I know things like buffing SEE or LV are similar but those usually get a cursory “we’re looking into it” to start.

Yes.

As far as the drop rate issue is concerned, we don't need the CM to answer on this anymore, imo

We have enough player data to make our own conclusions, so I think its best to move on from it

At this point, you are just stressing yourself over it

Yeah, I’m starting to remember a few too. Just most get locked because of people lacking civility and forgotten about.

We do have enough data to make our own conclusions, and those conculsions are that CG changed the Galactic Chase droprate without telling us. I don’t think that’s enough, though. For one thing, it could be a bug or mistake from the Cap Ship or Conquest Character chases with reduced drops, or it could be an intentional shift to get more money. I want to know which.

Moving on just lets these things continue happening. I still haven’t really forgiven CG for how they handled the oQGJ nerf. And what if some Dev decides that they can change droprates with impunity because no one saw and lowers something more impactful, like normal Character Shard drops or Kyro drops?