Qui Gon Jinn needs balancing?

"Altonio;130016" wrote:
I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking to nerf him, I can tell you it won't happen. But if it happens he still has a very particular set of skills, skills he has acquired over a very long career. Skills that make him a nightmare for people like you. If you stop your **** nonsense now, that'll be the end of it. He will not look for you, he will not pursue you. But if you don't, he will look for you, he will find you, and he will kill you and your entire team of trash.

Good luck

To me this happens to be one of the characters that is completely balanced and useful. He is a toon worth using with the right comp. If he was crazy OP then everyone would use him in the top 10. There are some that use him but not all. And if his Jedi lead was crazy strong then everyone would use all Jedi. I haven't seen anyone running a full Jedi only team in the meta.

"Altonio;130016" wrote:
I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking to nerf him, I can tell you it won't happen. But if it happens he still has a very particular set of skills, skills he has acquired over a very long career. Skills that make him a nightmare for people like you. If you stop your **** nonsense now, that'll be the end of it. He will not look for you, he will not pursue you. But if you don't, he will look for you, he will find you, and he will kill you and your entire team of trash.

I have QGJ btw

"BlowinLoadz;130033" wrote:

"Altonio;130016" wrote:
I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking to nerf him, I can tell you it won't happen. But if it happens he still has a very particular set of skills, skills he has acquired over a very long career. Skills that make him a nightmare for people like you. If you stop your **** nonsense now, that'll be the end of it. He will not look for you, he will not pursue you. But if you don't, he will look for you, he will find you, and he will kill you and your entire team of trash.

Good luck

Lol... you do know Altonio is referring to Liam Neeson's "Taken" film right?

If anything assist characters like QGJ and Geo soldier need to be changed that the non-faction characters that assist only do 50% damage not what they do currently... So in the case of QGJ only Jedi get the full benefit of 70% bonus damage... most Jedi don't hit every hard so this maintains balance... QGJ only really becomes a huge issue with that attack is if he calls in someone like the FOTP or Rey.. where 70% on their basic makes the attack capable of one-shotting absolutely anyone. But if the attack was change such that non-jedi do only 50% damage instead of getting 70% bonus a jedi would... I feel would be balanced...

The same would apply to the Geo soldier... that his assist attack will only benefit other Geonosians, anyone else attacks with a penality to their damage

Other than that.. both characters would be fine in the states they are..

The counter to Jedi teams are Sidious/Dooku teams. Dooku still goes before all of my Jedi of same gear and Level on QGJ led teams. Sidious is ridiculous to attempt to kill too because anti-jedi ability. I just recently acquired Darth Maul so I'm going to test him out, but it looks like if he's leading a team of Sith against Jedi, he'll probably win. QGJ is also super squishy and does comparatively lower damage. I think he's good where he is right now. I mean, the only reason he's being used atm is because of the changes to speed.

"LauraBodewig;132066" wrote:
The counter to Jedi teams are Sidious/Dooku teams. Dooku still goes before all of my Jedi of same gear and Level on QGJ led teams. Sidious is ridiculous to attempt to kill too because anti-jedi ability. I just recently acquired Darth Maul so I'm going to test him out, but it looks like if he's leading a team of Sith against Jedi, he'll probably win. QGJ is also super squishy and does comparatively lower damage. I think he's good where he is right now. I mean, the only reason he's being used atm is because of the changes to speed.

The Dooku/Sid combo probably works well against this team on offense because the AI is stupid. It is surprisingly ineffective the other way around if you play well. By that I mean that I was genuinely surprised.
Yoda always goes before Dooku, and if you toss Battle Meditation on immediately it shuts down his stun. It basically also shuts down Sid: his AoE does a bit of damage but no DOTs, and his heal immunity, which already was highly resisted because of his low potency, never lands.
Dooku can be taken out fairly easily by Jinn's and Lumi's specials. Taking out Sid is also not hard: you just avoid attacking him with non-Jedi. He will usually start down 25% health or more from counters by your Dooku after he AoEs, and then often one GS special will finish him.
I haven't fought Darth Maul in a while, but I'd imagine he could be effective on a team with other dangerous threats simply by virtue of forcing you to focus on him first so other guys have more time to cause problems.

"Uncultured_swine9;132251" wrote:

If you think "skill" plays a significant part in this game, then clearly you need to branch out a little.

It does require some skill... not just in team assembly but also in playing it effectively. This increases for complex teams with complicated characters like Yoda.

"LauraBodewig;132066" wrote:
The counter to Jedi teams are Sidious/Dooku teams. Dooku still goes before all of my Jedi of same gear and Level on QGJ led teams. Sidious is ridiculous to attempt to kill too because anti-jedi ability. I just recently acquired Darth Maul so I'm going to test him out, but it looks like if he's leading a team of Sith against Jedi, he'll probably win. QGJ is also super squishy and does comparatively lower damage. I think he's good where he is right now. I mean, the only reason he's being used atm is because of the changes to speed.

Dooku never goes first when I am facing him. Yoda is faster with QGJ lead. Unless I am facing under geared Dooku's. Yoda with QGJ lead is the only thing that gives Jedi a shot against a sith team.

"Skye;131883" wrote:

"BlowinLoadz;130033" wrote:

"Altonio;130016" wrote:
I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking to nerf him, I can tell you it won't happen. But if it happens he still has a very particular set of skills, skills he has acquired over a very long career. Skills that make him a nightmare for people like you. If you stop your **** nonsense now, that'll be the end of it. He will not look for you, he will not pursue you. But if you don't, he will look for you, he will find you, and he will kill you and your entire team of trash.

Good luck

Lol... you do know Altonio is referring to Liam Neeson's "Taken" film right?

Yea duh, the guy in the phone says good luck to Liam Neeson before he hangs up

Does a pretty big chunk of damage and has a good skill set, but you can take him out very quickly, most of the time he probably only gets 1-2 turns when I go up against him

"xJazzx;13788" wrote:
He's the only player in the game with speed leadership allowing four Jedi (Yoda, anakin, eeth, himself) to jump in the top ten list of speed, assist with the best bonus that applied to all, dispel that removes taunts rendering tanks useless, and turn meter manipulation with his basic.

He has almost double of what other characters have. Something needs to be done about QGJ. Many are calling for Geo Solider to be nerfed and GS only has a assist that does not give 75% bonus damage to assisting allies and a critical buff for geonosian allies. And look at what QGJ has..?

He is a good char, but his strengths are balanced by his low health and lack of defensive capabilities.