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PDub_LJenkins
Rising Newcomer
4 years ago

Royal Guard Rework?

Does anyone have more information on the mentioned Royal Guard rework? At approx 25:25 of the Operation Metaverse interview, Crumb mentioned that details might be coming out at "the same time" as that interview. Given I'm still months away from LV, the more useful rework of RG seems interesting.
  • "Patrick_LJenkins;c-2296565" wrote:
    "feralicious;c-2296563" wrote:
    This is what we’ve all been clamoring for. They sure do have their finger on the pulse.


    Ok, this made me laugh, but I'll take any free "touch-up" improvement I can get. At least he isn't being made even worse!


    yet
  • "HumbleMumble;c-2296719" wrote:
    "emoore123;c-2296674" wrote:
    "Range1974;c-2296602" wrote:
    Who’s health doubles, DV, RG, or another unspecified male allied leader?
    Dear CG - I have been reading and writing English for almost 50 years. If I’m not sure what the change means how does it translate to non-native speakers?


    "Royal Guard gains Max Health equal to 5% of the allied leader’s Max Health and then doubles his Health until the end of the encounter."

    Seems pretty clear to me that "doubles his health" is referring to Royal Guard. No English degree required. ?


    Could be referring to leader too, so it’s unclear.

    Edit: the rule is that a pronoun belongs to the closest antecedent so the description actually tells us that it’s the leader health that is doubled.


    Only if you assume the Leader's pronouns are male.
  • Haha it shows how far down the gravity well of despond conquest 7 has dragged us if pedantic dissection of grammar is entertainment. Yet strangely it is.

    The answer of course is that the pronoun in this case is very clearly associated with the subject - so that trumps any other technical rules. So it’s the Guard’s health what doubles ;-)
  • "crzydroid;c-2296855" wrote:
    "HumbleMumble;c-2296719" wrote:
    "emoore123;c-2296674" wrote:
    "Range1974;c-2296602" wrote:
    Who’s health doubles, DV, RG, or another unspecified male allied leader?
    Dear CG - I have been reading and writing English for almost 50 years. If I’m not sure what the change means how does it translate to non-native speakers?


    "Royal Guard gains Max Health equal to 5% of the allied leader’s Max Health and then doubles his Health until the end of the encounter."

    Seems pretty clear to me that "doubles his health" is referring to Royal Guard. No English degree required. ?


    Could be referring to leader too, so it’s unclear.

    Edit: the rule is that a pronoun belongs to the closest antecedent so the description actually tells us that it’s the leader health that is doubled.


    Only if you assume the Leader's pronouns are male.


    No, his can be used to refer to the Leader even if the character in question might be female. It’s an older grammatical rule but still valid.
  • "emoore123;c-2296880" wrote:
    "HumbleMumble;c-2296719" wrote:
    "emoore123;c-2296674" wrote:
    "Range1974;c-2296602" wrote:
    Who’s health doubles, DV, RG, or another unspecified male allied leader?
    Dear CG - I have been reading and writing English for almost 50 years. If I’m not sure what the change means how does it translate to non-native speakers?


    "Royal Guard gains Max Health equal to 5% of the allied leader’s Max Health and then doubles his Health until the end of the encounter."

    Seems pretty clear to me that "doubles his health" is referring to Royal Guard. No English degree required. ?


    Could be referring to leader too, so it’s unclear.

    Edit: the rule is that a pronoun belongs to the closest antecedent so the description actually tells us that it’s the leader health that is doubled.


    Maybe most of us just don't think too hard about it, but to me it was pretty clear that the subject if the sentence was royal guard and not the leader. It's simply saying royal guard takes 5% of the leaders' max health, then royal guard's total health pool gets doubled. Obviously being the tank of the team, you'd want royal guard to get the extra health ?


    I agree that it makes more sense for royal guard getting more health and if this had been the first time CG wrote a vague or faulty description I wouldn’t have commented.
  • emoore28's avatar
    emoore28
    New Spectator
    "InyakSolomon88;c-2296901" wrote:
    "emoore123;c-2296880" wrote:
    "HumbleMumble;c-2296719" wrote:
    "emoore123;c-2296674" wrote:
    "Range1974;c-2296602" wrote:
    Who’s health doubles, DV, RG, or another unspecified male allied leader?
    Dear CG - I have been reading and writing English for almost 50 years. If I’m not sure what the change means how does it translate to non-native speakers?


    "Royal Guard gains Max Health equal to 5% of the allied leader’s Max Health and then doubles his Health until the end of the encounter."

    Seems pretty clear to me that "doubles his health" is referring to Royal Guard. No English degree required. ?


    Could be referring to leader too, so it’s unclear.

    Edit: the rule is that a pronoun belongs to the closest antecedent so the description actually tells us that it’s the leader health that is doubled.


    Maybe most of us just don't think too hard about it, but to me it was pretty clear that the subject if the sentence was royal guard and not the leader. It's simply saying royal guard takes 5% of the leaders' max health, then royal guard's total health pool gets doubled. Obviously being the tank of the team, you'd want royal guard to get the extra health ?


    We all assumed DRevs was the one inflicting Death Mark on the enemy leader and learned recently that that isn't the case at all so I think we can safely say that with CG, assumptions aren't a good idea.


    Revan's deathmark situation isn't a result of faulty descriptions imo, so much as it is bad decisions on the devs part. It worked perfectly fine for all of us until they decided to introduce feats. That's a huge oversight on their part, I agree. This conquest has been a cluster that's exposed the "spaghetti code" we all heard about long ago.