Shame. Just Shame.

Congratulations, you too fell to finding the wrong enemy guild. Not long ago someone claimed this exact guild to be their opponent when in fact another one with a pretty similar looking name was the real one.
Dunno bud...i can live with "S happens"...or with "ups...unlucky fix"...once...twice or more times...but so many in a raw, and we are not only ones who got this issue as one can see by more and more of debates about it on forums, it is narrowed to the fact that MM is heavily unbalanced atm, and all of this is in hope of CG fixing it a.s.a.p.
As end user of this game only thing i know it is not fair sport and it is not something that any true competitive player wish for playing same content in game.

"Kisakee;c-2220128" wrote:
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If you want to know who's your real opponent look for some of their names and google their swgoh.gg accounts, you will get them eventually.

Lol ye...kinda derped that1. Thanx
Was so frustrated i havent even bothered to check such a small letter details. Got dizzy when ive seen their 1st def fields :P
Anyway..one we got is 60mil tougher (checked through enemy player name). Still i find it very unbalanced and am still holding the fact that it should be fixed, change its MM calculating system or w/e.

"Kisakee;c-2220029" wrote:

"Nyalea;c-2219908" wrote:

"Range1974;c-2219744" wrote:
Maybe they don’t have as many able to battle this Sunday. We don’t allow anyone to join who can’t fight within 6 hours of it unlocking for battle. We have had less than 40 join during the holidays.

This is the fourth time in a raw that we face 15M - 50M sandbag... Even one we contacted, assumed they sandbag just for win and nothing else...

Do you even know what sandbagging means? I don't think so. Our guild is having a participation of 38-46 people regularly and that differs because they don't have the time to play or just don't want to. Most of the time we're getting matched against guilds with a 30-40 million lower GP for whatever reason, this has absolutely nothing to do with any sandbagging but finding another guild with fitting numbers of participants and combined joined (joined! NOT total guild GP) GP. The system is having problems with that and always had and that's about it. Your so called "sandbagging" is nothing but a desperate algorhythm trying to find a combatant.

I'm so glad if you and your guild are not playing as asshole ! And thx for the lesson buuuut... I exactly know what is sandbag and when one of our opponent pm one of us to congrats us for the full clear AND gives us some excuses for the sand... I don't blame our opponent, the algorhythme of the game cheer this kind of play to win easily, why not do it ? I blame CG to do nothing else than trying To get more money from us, and an algorhythme can be easily modified... as you said, it count the number of GP from those who "joined" why not change by something like "the same number of GL who joined" ?

And just for info, the fact of volontary reduce the number of player who join the battle To volontary reduce your GP to face lower guilds and assure your victory because your 40 member who joined are still powerfull than the 50 ennemies, it's called sandbag.

"Nyalea;c-2220210" wrote:
when one of our opponent pm one of us to congrats us for the full clear AND gives us some excuses for the sand...

And just for info, the fact of volontary reduce the number of player who join the battle To volontary reduce your GP to face lower guilds and assure your victory because your 40 member who joined are still powerfull than the 50 ennemies, it's called sandbag.

There may be guilds out there doing such things and maybe they even excused for their behaviour but in all honesty i don't think that this happens every other TW to you.
The matchmaking isn't very good at all, granted. But assuming that lots of guilds are actively sandbagging doesn't seem right. If at all it may happen by accident as some people just don't can or want to participate.

"MaruMaru;c-2220520" wrote:
You are right, but there's no reason the algo not to be improved to match within +-1 actives instead of allowing many actives difference. It's a cg problem, not a player problem.

That's totally true and i'm not going to question this at all. I just want to show people that their "sandbagging" most of the time is just coincidence or wrong premise.

Our last TW was 0 GL + 1 GAS v/s 12 GL + 19 GAS.
Call it what you will, that is just plain BAD matchmaking & I honestly can't figure out what method they are using since its clearly not comparing top teams like they have claimed in the past.

"MaruMaru;c-2220951" wrote:

You should know what method they are using then, it's the active gp of the guilds and nothing else. It doesn't compare any quantity and quality of the other things. Not too different from how gac matchmaking works.

When did that change because its not what the devs stated in the past?

Active GP is for Rewards tier only.

Matchmaking uses some algorithm they wouldn't clarify but involved power of the most common upper tier teams or some such thing per the dev post below

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/162893/dev-post-matchmaking-clarification-post-3-15/p1

The other thing I'm not sure about is this sandbagging concept.
I mean I get it, very much, but it implies that the Lower GP Guild has the Higher # of Players Join.
That the Higher GP Guild holds out their worst/lowest players & only the BIG ones Join but they have super deep rosters.

Which isn't what I see, we are usually the lower GP guild AND we are usually the ones setting the team # limit, so we have 40 join & the slots is 20/zone. So if anything the Higher Gp guild either had the same or more members join. Which means the GP really shouldn't be matched up then at all.

And it doesn't remotely explain the 0-12 GL & 1-19 GAS discrepancies.
Not counting more DR/DM, more Padme, a few JKL that we also don't have any of.

Am I not correct in that TW sets the # of slots based on the Lower # of Joined Members between the 2 guilds?
So if its 38 v/s 42 then Defense Slots is 19/Zone?

Today's TW Matchup..... LOL.


Char/CapShip US v/s Them
SEE 0 1
JML 0 3
REY 0 2
SLKR 0 6
GAS 2 21
JKL 0 7
D.REV 21 28
MALAK 14 21
J.REV 31 36
NEGOTIATOR 8 32
MALEVOLENCE 0 12
RELIC-7 49 175
RELIC-6+ 77 227
RELIC-4+ 479 653


The thing that is getting me is that we had 46 Join & have to post 23 per zone.

To my knowledge the # per Zone is Half the Lower of the 2 Joining guilds.

So 30 v/s 40 would be 15 right?

To be at 23 means we were lower or tied w/ the other guild in #s?

With that kind of imbalance in relics, HOW, can that possibly be even close to the same GP if they had the same # of joined or more?

I could see it if they had 26 join & we were posting 13 per zone, but this is just insanity.

"Schwartzring;c-2223577" wrote:

The thing that is getting me is that we had 46 Join & have to post 23 per zone.

To my knowledge the # per Zone is Half the Lower of the 2 Joining guilds.

So 30 v/s 40 would be 15 right?

To be at 23 means we were lower or tied w/ the other guild in #s?

Wrong, it's always tied to the guild with more people joined. It has to be.
(40 x low GP) + (30 x high GP) = even match (from a CG point of view)
If it would be the other way around the guild with more people joined would be in a big disadvantage as they couldn't set as many teams in defense and therefore have a way weaker defense. The less people side need to be drained on characters to make it somewhat fair.