sith are everywhere!!

"Ig88isboss;967411" wrote:

"ripthestage;967400" wrote:
3? Collect Rex from fleet shop. Oh you want the zetas instead. It's a choice. Chirrut could be obtained from tournament and a 4-5* is more than arena viable. Baze can be collected from shipments, it's up to you whether you spend your crystals on gear or on his shards. GK is free from hAAT and all we got a free DN. Again, it's a choice. I know free to play people with this squad.
And to be honest I really don't understand this pay wall thing. Only all star mods are hard to manage if you are free to play but if I want to be honest, no one told you you should be rank 1-10 in your arena for free. However we have 100% free to play guys and they are there. Still. So yeah this is cure. Also Boba and Kylo are great on offense against Sith. Think, act, win. That's the cure

"Ig88isboss;967368" wrote:

"ripthestage;967311" wrote:
Here is the cure.

https://youtu.be/jNh5fj51ZFs

https://youtu.be/yX7Q-1TxeFg

"Ig88isboss;966922" wrote:
Zaul is cancer to the arena and there isn't a cure. Just gotta accept that.

3 paywall characters? Not a cure but ok.

Are you really saying chaze aren't paywall characters? :lol:

Depends on people's definition of paywall. A handful of people were able to get Chaze for free, and most people do indeed have Darth Nihilus. A lot of people don't see characters they aren't able to farm as free however.

I'm having to buy additional DT shards through shipments, which I calculated as going to be almost 2K crystals to next star level. To me that's a paywall, others not so much.

Are zetas and GK considered "paywall" at this point still? Rex leader with GK (multi cleanse) does very well vs. Sith.

Also, zJinn comps with GK and zBarriss are also great vs. Sith. Don't need Chirrut / Baze. Even if GK is 5*. At some point he has to be considered a non-paywall / non-whale toon. Idk if everyone would agree we are at that point yet though.....

"Ig88isboss;967406" wrote:

"leef;967401" wrote:

"Ig88isboss;967387" wrote:

"Nikoms565;967385" wrote:

"Ig88isboss;967372" wrote:

"Kyno;967370" wrote:

"Ig88isboss;967366" wrote:
True, I think they could've toned down his leader ability a bit though.

I guess but it is a zeta, no going back, no further to go.... (I don't think they will rework him again)

Yep. I just feel like with the zader meta we saw a lot more diversity. Now it's just all zaul.

Just looked in my top 20. 12 non-Zaul leads. 8/20 isn't quite "all"

Youre shard doesnt apply to everyone and neither does mine. But my shard it's 40+ of top 50 zaul.

Couple weeks back we had tons of zader, fo, resistance, zqgj and droids. The fo team is still there but he drops to 40ish daily. I guess that was just the transition period to zaul meta.

there must be alot of players in your top50 if there were tons of zader, fo, resistance zqgj and droid teams in there.
All kidding aside, according to the swgoh.gg meta report less than half of the top1, top10 and top100 players use zmaul as their leader. It's probably the most reliable source of information we have at our disposal.

The tons part only applied to zader...

43% of number one players use zaul. That's an absurd number considering the amount of playable characters with leader abilities there are.

It's the flavor of the month

I don't see zMaul lasting much personally and might fade out by may

It's tough to face them but they're trending right now because word of mouth and 3 new siths that were dropped last month

In our guild all the originals have 6* GK and most of them get him to 7* by next week. Free to play guys too. Totally agree with you. I just showed a team I use cause I have them but as I mentioned and I'm glad you did it too, they are not must. And don't forget about Boba and Kylo. They are great too.

"JohnnySteelAlpha;967428" wrote:
Are zetas and GK considered "paywall" at this point still? Rex leader with GK (multi cleanse) does very well vs. Sith.

Also, zJinn comps with GK and zBarriss are also great vs. Sith. Don't need Chirrut / Baze. Even if GK is 5*. At some point he has to be considered a non-paywall / non-whale toon. Idk if everyone would agree we are at that point yet though.....

In our guild all the originals have 6* GK and most of them get him to 7* by next week. Free to play guys too. Totally agree with you. I just showed a team I use cause I have them but as I mentioned and I'm glad you did it too, they are not must. And don't forget about Boba and Kylo. They are great too.

"JohnnySteelAlpha;967428" wrote:
Are zetas and GK considered "paywall" at this point still? Rex leader with GK (multi cleanse) does very well vs. Sith.

Also, zJinn comps with GK and zBarriss are also great vs. Sith. Don't need Chirrut / Baze. Even if GK is 5*. At some point he has to be considered a non-paywall / non-whale toon. Idk if everyone would agree we are at that point yet though.....

"ripthestage;967453" wrote:
In our guild all the originals have 6* GK and most of them get him to 7* by next week. Free to play guys too. Totally agree with you. I just showed a team I use cause I have them but as I mentioned and I'm glad you did it too, they are not must. And don't forget about Boba and Kylo. They are great too.

"JohnnySteelAlpha;967428" wrote:
Are zetas and GK considered "paywall" at this point still? Rex leader with GK (multi cleanse) does very well vs. Sith.

Also, zJinn comps with GK and zBarriss are also great vs. Sith. Don't need Chirrut / Baze. Even if GK is 5*. At some point he has to be considered a non-paywall / non-whale toon. Idk if everyone would agree we are at that point yet though.....

Show me a video of you beating a good zaul team without chaze and I'll be impressed.

I don't want to impress you and you can have a good Zaul team which can beat other good Zaul teams for free. Zaul, EP, DN, SA, Trooper. All free and you do not need them at 7* to do that. As far as i remember this thread is about Sith everywhere. I wanted to show you do not need to follow it. I don't feel bad cause you don't have the toons to do it.

"Ig88isboss;967459" wrote:

"ripthestage;967453" wrote:
In our guild all the originals have 6* GK and most of them get him to 7* by next week. Free to play guys too. Totally agree with you. I just showed a team I use cause I have them but as I mentioned and I'm glad you did it too, they are not must. And don't forget about Boba and Kylo. They are great too.

"JohnnySteelAlpha;967428" wrote:
Are zetas and GK considered "paywall" at this point still? Rex leader with GK (multi cleanse) does very well vs. Sith.

Also, zJinn comps with GK and zBarriss are also great vs. Sith. Don't need Chirrut / Baze. Even if GK is 5*. At some point he has to be considered a non-paywall / non-whale toon. Idk if everyone would agree we are at that point yet though.....

Show me a video of you beating a good zaul team without chaze and I'll be impressed.

"Ig88isboss;967459" wrote:

"ripthestage;967453" wrote:
In our guild all the originals have 6* GK and most of them get him to 7* by next week. Free to play guys too. Totally agree with you. I just showed a team I use cause I have them but as I mentioned and I'm glad you did it too, they are not must. And don't forget about Boba and Kylo. They are great too.

"JohnnySteelAlpha;967428" wrote:
Are zetas and GK considered "paywall" at this point still? Rex leader with GK (multi cleanse) does very well vs. Sith.

Also, zJinn comps with GK and zBarriss are also great vs. Sith. Don't need Chirrut / Baze. Even if GK is 5*. At some point he has to be considered a non-paywall / non-whale toon. Idk if everyone would agree we are at that point yet though.....

Show me a video of you beating a good zaul team without chaze and I'll be impressed.

My Zaul team can beat good Zaul teams without Chaze.

Boba (L), EP, Zylo, TFP, DT in third on my shard rn. He can beat good Zaul teams w/o Chaze. (He just got his DT from 3* to 4* yesterday through shipments) Thats a pretty f2p team that can beat the Zaul teams w/o Chaze, and his TFP is slower than most of the Zaul teams. He can also beat the triple cleanse "zaul meta counter" team with relative ease.

"Vertigo;967383" wrote:


Cures can be expensive... You ever looked at a hospital bill?

Bullshit, everyone knows there is no money in a cure.

"JoseIrimia;967242" wrote:
Two things here:
1. In my personal opinion, the complain is not about being sith, or other faction. The problem is that after the release of new toons (or reworks of old ones), a certain team becomes META miles away from other teams. Devs should care more about balance and have a real stone-scissors-paper scenario. (Disclaimer, I have beaten zaul teams with other set up, but when reaching teams with godly mods, other teams with similar class mods, mainly speed, cannot make it)

IMO this is right on point, and from what I can see a huge problem. Rebels have been considered overpowered for a while before the recent toons and updates, and the solution to overpowered characters is not to create more overpowered characters or abilities... The characters IMO need to be balanced, the compensation for really strong characters shouldn't be other really strong characters, its just stupid.