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And remember the screenshots from last summer of these mods? They announced them, but didnt release them. So its coming, they knew the speed issue would buy them some time and make $ while they bidded there time.
Somebody somewhere has that pic of the retribution mods and stun mods from the modgate debacle that summer...upload it to this thread please...pretty please with sugar on top! <3 <3 <3 ","body@stringLength":"992","rawBody":"All I hear is moaning, groaning and gnashing of the teeth about how speed secondaries are unfair, we need speed secondaries challenges, remove speed secondaries...blah blah blah....
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And remember the screenshots from last summer of these mods? They announced them, but didnt release them. So its coming, they knew the speed issue would buy them some time and make $ while they bidded there time.
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Make it where you need a set of four stun mods for it to work, and none of them have speed secondaries.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"126","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-03-05T12:01:55.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-03-05T12:01:55.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4591504/message:4591506","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"126","rawBody":"This is a great idea. Make it where you need a set of four stun mods for it to work, and none of them have speed secondaries. 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(Also my \"Speed Secondary Mod Challenge\" comment in that other thread was a joke.... Didn't think anyone was gonna take that seriously at all...)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-03-05T12:03:11.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-03-05T12:03:11.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4591504/message:4591507","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"233","rawBody":"Evasion Mods pls, doesn't matter if you go first, you still can't hit me ;)
(Also my \"Speed Secondary Mod Challenge\" comment in that other thread was a joke.... Didn't think anyone was gonna take that seriously at all...)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:4591507_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4591508":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4591508","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4591508":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:175879"},"id":"message:4591508","revisionNum":1,"uid":4591508,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4591504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4591504"},"subject":"Re: Stun and Retribution mods","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4591508"},"body":"Or better yet make it where the stun set bonus is 6 mods without speed secondaries.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"83","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-03-05T12:04:07.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-03-05T12:04:07.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4591504/message:4591508","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"83","rawBody":"Or better yet make it where the stun set bonus is 6 mods without speed secondaries. ","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:4591508_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4591509":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4591509","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4591509":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:135157"},"id":"message:4591509","revisionNum":1,"uid":4591509,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4591504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4591504"},"subject":"Re: Stun and Retribution mods","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4591509"},"body":"I think i would be perfectly balanced to require 3 mods for both stun and retribution since they go hand in hand...and are the ultimate counter to speed. This will also allow for a few more new mod effects that only require 1 mod as well...
Like Resistance mod Special Dmg mod Dodge mod Tactics mod Agility mod Strength mod
You get the idea... this will further supplement toons fortifcations against speed being the penultimate stat...
Consider ewoks currently, they as a group are hands down fast beyond any group, yet they are not top tier because there dps is not sufficient, there not tough either...but oh boy are they fast.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-03-05T12:11:35.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-03-05T12:11:35.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4591504/message:4591509","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"695","rawBody":"I think i would be perfectly balanced to require 3 mods for both stun and retribution since they go hand in hand...and are the ultimate counter to speed. This will also allow for a few more new mod effects that only require 1 mod as well...
Like Resistance mod Special Dmg mod Dodge mod Tactics mod Agility mod Strength mod
You get the idea... this will further supplement toons fortifcations against speed being the penultimate stat...
Consider ewoks currently, they as a group are hands down fast beyond any group, yet they are not top tier because there dps is not sufficient, there not tough either...but oh boy are they fast.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:4591509_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4591510":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4591510","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4591510":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:203443"},"id":"message:4591510","revisionNum":1,"uid":4591510,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4591504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4591504"},"subject":"Re: Stun and Retribution mods","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4591510"},"body":"
\"Loose_Lee;944203\" wrote: I think i would be perfectly balanced to require 3 mods for both stun and retribution since they go hand in hand...and are the ultimate counter to speed. This will also allow for a few more new mod effects that only require 1 mod as well...
Like Resistance mod Special Dmg mod Dodge mod Tactics mod Agility mod Strength mod
You get the idea... this will further supplement toons fortifcations against speed being the penultimate stat...
Consider ewoks currently, they as a group are hands down fast beyond any group, yet they are not top tier because there dps is not sufficient, there not tough either...but oh boy are they fast.
I thought the ultimate counter to speed was more speed?
Jk, but the problem with stun set mods is that the only thing that truly counters stuns is more stuns. I think retribution mods would be slightly different because theres Daze and tanks to soak damage and stuns and stealth to counter retribution, but the only thing that counters stun is going before your enemy and stunning them first. Stuns DO NOT counter speed, stun mods would add to the importance of speed secondaries because you could go first and stun your opponents before they could stun you.
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\"Loose_Lee;944203\" wrote: I think i would be perfectly balanced to require 3 mods for both stun and retribution since they go hand in hand...and are the ultimate counter to speed. This will also allow for a few more new mod effects that only require 1 mod as well...
Like Resistance mod Special Dmg mod Dodge mod Tactics mod Agility mod Strength mod
You get the idea... this will further supplement toons fortifcations against speed being the penultimate stat...
Consider ewoks currently, they as a group are hands down fast beyond any group, yet they are not top tier because there dps is not sufficient, there not tough either...but oh boy are they fast.
I thought the ultimate counter to speed was more speed?
Jk, but the problem with stun set mods is that the only thing that truly counters stuns is more stuns. I think retribution mods would be slightly different because theres Daze and tanks to soak damage and stuns and stealth to counter retribution, but the only thing that counters stun is going before your enemy and stunning them first. Stuns DO NOT counter speed, stun mods would add to the importance of speed secondaries because you could go first and stun your opponents before they could stun you.
Retribution on the other hand can be countered in more than 1 way, and speed isn't actually one of those counters.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:4591510_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4591511":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4591511","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4591511":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:135157"},"id":"message:4591511","revisionNum":1,"uid":4591511,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4591504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4591504"},"subject":"Re: Stun and Retribution mods","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4591511"},"body":"But the combination of stun and retribution not only adds more RNG to the mix, it makes tenacity relevant, (maybe even a mechanic rework like heal immunity) and lessens the penultimate importance of speed.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-03-05T12:24:28.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-03-05T12:24:28.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4591504/message:4591511","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"205","rawBody":"But the combination of stun and retribution not only adds more RNG to the mix, it makes tenacity relevant, (maybe even a mechanic rework like heal immunity) and lessens the penultimate importance of speed.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:4591511_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:221799":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:221799","uid":221799,"login":"tuftedpaper85","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-01-18T13:16:38.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1721239641000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:221799"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4591512":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4591512","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4591512":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:221799"},"id":"message:4591512","revisionNum":1,"uid":4591512,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4591504"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4591504"},"subject":"Re: Stun and Retribution mods","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4591512"},"body":"I think one of the devs said these weren't going to happen. 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\"Tuftedpaper85;944239\" wrote: I think one of the devs said these weren't going to happen. I'd be very surprised if these ever got released
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\"Tuftedpaper85;944239\" wrote: I think one of the devs said these weren't going to happen. I'd be very surprised if these ever got released
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