Tell us EXACTLY what we NEED

"NicWester;c-1167050" wrote:

"JacenRoe;c-1166950" wrote:

"mindlesSheep;c-1166907" wrote:
Entitled 10/10

Funny. I don't recall the part where he said he deserved to be handed anything. It seems like he was asking that we know where to direct our efforts so that we can put in the work ourselves. That would be nice.

That's a choice you've made, though. The choice I've made is to work on a wide breadth of characters so that if an event comes out I'll very likely be able to participate.

I have never chased the meta, though for a nice moment when B2 debuted the meta chased me for a while, but I have a ton of characters that I've been farming since I started playing (My roster is on whatever the site is, pretty sure it's the same name I use here) and have earned.

So why should I be punished because you made a choice that I didn't? Am I going to get a free General Kenobi because I made a choice you didn't? How's that fair?

Not one thing you said made any sense, and none of it had any relevance to what I said. I said nothing about my roster, or any choices I've made. (I actually have a very diverse roster TYVM.) I was just pointing out that someone indiscriminately spat the word "entitlement" at the OP when he wasn't asking for anything tangible for free. He wanted information (which they always give us) a bit earlier, which I noted would be nice.

By the way, this wouldn't "punish" you. You would benefit from the same info. You wouldn't miss out on anything by all of us knowing what to grind if we choose to go a certain direction.

There was one other thing you said that was nonsense. Building a diverse roster is good to a point. But unless you're a whale you can't have over 100 characters 7* and gear 11. Many events require something specific that requires a bit of focus. You mentioned Kenobi. If you built a roster of dozens of gear 8/9s then someone with the right 5 man team of gear 11s would outperform you by miles.

Diversity is good, but some things require focus. And they usually give us the information on where to focus when something new comes out. Just not always as soon as some would like so that we can start the grind. Are there financial reasons for dropping it on us at the last second? Sure. But even with a bit of notice many would need to buy some crystals to make it in time. And not making customers angry has value as well. If they stick around they may spend more in the future as opposed to people rage quitting.

So the trick for the devs is to balance holding the info until late enough that there is a little pressure to spend, but not too late to make significant numbers of customers angry. I thought the Phoenix/Thrawn thing was about right. But slightly earlier would be nice, and it wouldn't hurt you any.

"JacenRoe;c-1167212" wrote:

By the way, this wouldn't "punish" you. You would benefit from the same info. You wouldn't miss out on anything by all of us knowing what to grind if we choose to go a certain direction.

it depends on what you mean by "punish". If the thrawn event was announced earlier more players would have had him 7 stars like i have. The less prepared benefit more from an early notice than the well prepared, so one could argue that it would "punish" the well prepared players. It would also mean that I would lose a slight competative advantage because they choose to share the requirements earlier.
I personally don't care much about that, it's a nice bonus though. I do enjoy the fact that i was able to get him where others weren't, for me it was more about the accomplisment than having a more exclusive 7* character.
Long story short, i take pride in having all legendary characters unlocked at 7* first go around (except for yoda :(). If they announce the requirements earlier that wouldn't be something to be "proud" of anymore. One could also argue that i got lucky with the requirements ;)

"NicWester;c-1167174" wrote:

"StarSon;c-1167146" wrote:

"NicWester;c-1167139" wrote:

"leef;c-1167131" wrote:

"NicWester;c-1167128" wrote:

"scuba;c-1167109" wrote:
Sounds like a marquee event too me. Anyway who cares, I thought the community was "all sick of rebels" and was on the "no more rebels" train.

The Ewok parts sound like marquee events, but Luke feels like something else. I don't think they'd go with another Legendary Event.

Could be a flash event/marquee event mashup, maybe? Like, each tier gives a certain number of shards per run, with the highest tier (the one that uses your characters instead of event characters) giving a total of 330 if you do it every time.

Total speculation on my part, but that's what it feels like to me.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/1166757#Comment_1166757

Interesting, but still too ambiguous to go off of =\

(Unrelated to this thread, but boy howdy did the Territory Battle teaser in that post get me excited.)

Not that ambiguous. We know we need his friends (i.e. probably Ben, Leia, Han), and we know it's going to be a step up from a Legendary event. Just start farming anyone that had connections to Commander Luke.

Was that said somewhere else? Because the post I was linked to didn't say any of that...

Yes, it's alluded to in the "Road Ahead" post and article. Article link: https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/galaxy-of-heroes/news/road-ahead-july-17

Relevant quote:

Step into Luke Skywalker’s shoes and experience his journey from Farm Boy to Rebel Hero!

This is the first event of a new series where you’ll retrace the steps of the iconic hero LUKE SKYWALKER from his humble beginnings on Tatooine through his daring escape from the Galactic Empire’s ultimate weapon.

Completing this event will unlock the next iteration of Luke Skywalker: COMMANDER LUKE SKYWALKER.

So, just like the Flash Event where he worked with the Jawas, we should expect him to work with his other friends as he progresses. I would assume Old Ben and R2 are next, followed by Han and then Leia.

I agree it would be nice.

I don't expect them to actually tell us exactly what we need. 2 reasons,1- from the little bit I heard from the pod cast this event for luck will be different.
2- they don't do that, that's against the business model of stress spending

But then they will lose potential profit if they tell you :tongue:

"leef;c-1167229" wrote:

"JacenRoe;c-1167212" wrote:

By the way, this wouldn't "punish" you. You would benefit from the same info. You wouldn't miss out on anything by all of us knowing what to grind if we choose to go a certain direction.

it depends on what you mean by "punish". If the thrawn event was announced earlier more players would have had him 7 stars like i have. The less prepared benefit more from an early notice than the well prepared, so one could argue that it would "punish" the well prepared players. It would also mean that I would lose a slight competative advantage because they choose to share the requirements earlier.
I personally don't care much about that, it's a nice bonus though. I do enjoy the fact that i was able to get him where others weren't, for me it was more about the accomplisment than having a more exclusive 7* character.
Long story short, i take pride in having all legendary characters unlocked at 7* first go around (except for yoda :(). If they announce the requirements earlier that wouldn't be something to be "proud" of anymore. One could also argue that i got lucky with the requirements ;)

That's a pretty lose definition of punishment. And I actually said the Phoenix/Thrawn situation was about right as far as I'm concerned. We're in the same boat. I had to catch Yoda the 2nd time. But Palpatine, R2, and Thrawn I got at 7* the first time.

In any case, it appears we've both been around long enough to know that the amount of notice they have given us when we're going to need to do some hard grinding has varied pretty wildly. There are valid reasons for them to move the info release timeline forward or backward. But I find it silly to treat someone who wants info sooner like they are trying to get a free living from the government, or punish others around them.

Speaking as someone with a 7* Thrawn, if a few more people 50 spots below me in arena had just barely unlocked him it's no skin off my nose. And my arena contemporaries can all beat eachother anyhow no matter what. Thrawn or no Thrawn.

"Rumpelstilzchen;c-1167228" wrote:

"JacenRoe;c-1167212" wrote:

"NicWester;c-1167050" wrote:

"JacenRoe;c-1166950" wrote:

"mindlesSheep;c-1166907" wrote:
Entitled 10/10

Funny. I don't recall the part where he said he deserved to be handed anything. It seems like he was asking that we know where to direct our efforts so that we can put in the work ourselves. That would be nice.

That's a choice you've made, though. The choice I've made is to work on a wide breadth of characters so that if an event comes out I'll very likely be able to participate.

I have never chased the meta, though for a nice moment when B2 debuted the meta chased me for a while, but I have a ton of characters that I've been farming since I started playing (My roster is on whatever the site is, pretty sure it's the same name I use here) and have earned.

So why should I be punished because you made a choice that I didn't? Am I going to get a free General Kenobi because I made a choice you didn't? How's that fair?

Not one thing you said made any sense, and none of it had any relevance to what I said. I said nothing about my roster, or any choices I've made. (I actually have a very diverse roster TYVM.) I was just pointing out that someone indiscriminately spat the word "entitlement" at the OP when he wasn't asking for anything tangible for free. He wanted information (which they always give us) a bit earlier, which I noted would be nice.

By the way, this wouldn't "punish" you. You would benefit from the same info. You wouldn't miss out on anything by all of us knowing what to grind if we choose to go a certain direction.

There was one other thing you said that was nonsense. Building a diverse roster is good to a point. But unless you're a whale you can't have over 100 characters 7* and gear 11. Many events require something specific that requires a bit of focus. You mentioned Kenobi. If you built a roster of dozens of gear 8/9s then someone with the right 5 man team of gear 11s would outperform you by miles.

Diversity is good, but some things require focus. And they usually give us the information on where to focus when something new comes out. Just not always as soon as some would like so that we can start the grind. Are there financial reasons for dropping it on us at the last second? Sure. But even with a bit of notice many would need to buy some crystals to make it in time. And not making customers angry has value as well. If they stick around they may spend more in the future as opposed to people rage quitting.

So the trick for the devs is to balance holding the info until late enough that there is a little pressure to spend, but not too late to make significant numbers of customers angry. I thought the Phoenix/Thrawn thing was about right. But slightly earlier would be nice, and it wouldn't hurt you any.

Actually you are both right. Yes you need to focus and yes you need a broad roster. So how can you do both? MONEY. The game is designed to require spending, spending of time, money, skills etc..

I believe I acknowledged that diversity is useful to a point. And that I have a pretty broad roster myself. It was an overemphasis on diversity at the expense of having some specific strengths I was cautioning against.

"Jedi_Reach_;c-1167147" wrote:
https://www.sideshowtoy.com/assets/products/2159-commander-luke-skywalker-hoth/lg/2159-commander-luke-skywalker-hoth-003.jpg

Will this be Commander Luke iteration? Blaster and a Lightsaber?

I imagine He will be the 5th of the new 'Hoth Rebel' subfaction alongside
Hoth Han
Hoth Leia
HRS
Hoth solider.
Similar to 'Imperial Trooper'

@JacenRoe
You explain it thoroughly and that's exactly my intention. To get information so I (and others) know what to work for. There is still work involved.

"STRIKEBOMB;c-1167257" wrote:
But then they will lose potential profit if they tell you :tongue:

Do they? If I had direct information I'd be more likely to spend than vague hints and intrigue.

"evanbio;c-1167281" wrote:
I think they've given some pretty strong hints as to what is needed here. Of course it's not exact, but that is part of the game. How much notice did we have that PHX was needed for Thrawn? Typically, a team of 5* toons is all that was needed to unlock a character. And with Thrawn, your gear on those characters didn't matter! So try looking at the information they've given you and come to some conclusions on your own. Yes, you might be wrong. You could also be right. Happy collecting.

How exactly did gear not matter for unlocking Thrawn?

I'd rather be surprised. Last minute farming a new group of toons from double drop nodes and different areas of the game is a lot more exciting than grinding for a month and wondering when they will be viable. If I only get a 5* Commander Luke because that's all I can manage in a week or two, I'll be glad I did it.

Just save some resources for the next few weeks. You don't have to devote every crystal to a Baze or every Carbanti to a GK the minute you get them. Just be conservative when you know something new is coming.