GAC division rebalancing was long overdue but it came with additional time requirements for many players. Then Galactic Conquest was added, requiring more time from players and being practically mandatory since it is the sole way of acquiring key characters & ships. Then it was buffed requiring even more time and draining the fun out of it.Now Territory Wars is getting revamped. Again long overdue but again it comes with additional time requirements and is practically mandatory at the top end because it is the only way to acquire r9 mats.Any one of these would not be a big deal. But add them together and you have turned a fun game into a laborious grindfest and increased player dis-engagement. I've seen more in the last few weeks than at any other time in the last 3 years and I have even contemplated it myself. For now I settled for ignoring the red crate in Grindquest but I don't know how long that can last.

I don’t believe the increased number of teams in GAC/TW makes a material difference to time requirement. Most of the time 1 additional battle is no more than 3 minutes, so it’s more than offset by AB being simmable.However conquest is not a fun game mode.I have gotten red crate hard, and I hated at least half the time spent to get there as it was nothing but a boring grind.I will get red crate as long as I keep playing, since I want to keep up.But as you say, it’s bad engagement, pushing me closer to uninstall every day.

Agree, they have been talking about changes to other things to help offset this, simming the raid, ABs, and maybe others, but I'm still not sure that is enough of an offset.

I have always been one that goes for all the new characters and ships when they release but the new conquest has killed my drive. If that means I will slowly fall back in the arenas and slowly lose rewards and crystals then I guess CG got what they wanted? Weird that they would want players to lose interest in their game but it is what it is.

"Kyno;c-2303178" wrote:Agree, they have been talking about changes to other things to help offset this, simming the raid, ABs, and maybe others, but I'm still not sure that is enough of an offset.It’s far from it.Time needed for conquest after latest changes is like nothing else in this game if you are going for top box.Also, I’d like to correct my earlier post. When I said team increase in TW/GAC is of no consequence, that was before the actual increase was known. TW teams needed does make a negative difference now that we are looking at almost double teams needed at the higher end.

Nothing like setting 38 teams in each sector now. Will be a lot more time attacking in TW. Seems CG wants us to play this game nonstop now. No more QoL changes for us.

Too much "player engagement" is a bad thing

ImperatorSedris
4 years ago
"Morgoth01;c-2303175" wrote:
I don’t believe the increased number of teams in GAC/TW makes a material difference to time requirement. Most of the time 1 additional battle is no more than 3 minutes, so it’s more than offset by AB being simmable.

If you have to face 50 teams each sektor you have to do way more then 1 additional fight.
They simply doubled the time effort for high end guilds. The math is simple ... :wink:
Kluge1971
New Spectator
4 years ago
Agreed, TW has now been elevated to another unenjoyable, monotonous game mode. It's the full-guild coordination of CRancor all over again. Players want more variety of game options, not more reps of the same game option. As others have said, this is entertainment for us, not our friggin' full-time job.
111Deep
4 years ago
Yeah like I’m literally only getting red crate in conquest because Maul is a soft req for LV.
ManlyVanLee
New Novice
4 years ago
CG how dare you give players options to actually play your game?!

Half the time people whine about "look at me spin the characters because there's nothing to do!" Then the other half of the time they whine and moan because they can't get max rewards in conquest with little to no effort anymore
JonnySiniwali
4 years ago
"Epidem;c-2304195" wrote:
"SparkyBurns;c-2304192" wrote:
CG how dare you give players options to actually play your game?!

Half the time people whine about "look at me spin the characters because there's nothing to do!" Then the other half of the time they whine and moan because they can't get max rewards in conquest with little to no effort anymore

Feel free to enjoy repeating the same battles over and over again every day for hours on end, and to spend a large part of your time and crystals on it, but get used to the fact that this does not correspond at all to the definition of "fun content" for the vast majority of players.

"mickyluv;c-2303475" wrote:
We asked for a library. CG gave us a bookshelf with 3 paperbacks on it and expect us to read them 50 times.

It seems that some people here are quite willing to read the same book 50 times if you throw a trinket at them.

Yeah, because I am not going to miss powerful characters while waiting for them to fix it. They know how mad people are. It costs me 150 crystals a day over 10ish days to get a character as powerful as maul/cat/rc and that is a bargain compared to the cost of a marquee or the time it takes to pull a raid character, or wat. You better believe I will spend the time on it. Do I like it? No. Is it fun? Absolutely not. But what will be less fun is sitting around waiting an indefinite amount of time to get them after they become completely unavailable. You can't form a team with your principled stand. *Shrug* good luck though.

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