Too time consuming?

The 2 Heist should also be simable when 3 starred, it's a complete waste of time.

Please don't. GW is my favourite part of the game. I can't wait to do it everyday. I wish it was harder and longer. It's the only game mode in the game that we get to play regularly. Why do you even play the game if you don't want to play the game?

"Azraelrulez;c-1181248" wrote:
Didn't want to add anything to posts like the one I replied to abovr but seems some of you are mad at me that I think 15 minutes is too much.

Your situation might differ but my scenario: have to fight arena, anywhere from 15 to 20 minutes or more if I'm holding off a sniper. Around the same time for fleet. My guild does raids regularly, around 5 in a week apart from a bonus one every other time. 30 to 60 minutes for that. That's an hour to 2 hours 5 days a week. Then heists, events etc.

Now, to go back to my OP, new territory battles are coming in. Most likely, it'll be a time sink too. If it is, GW in its present form is not something I'll be looking forward to. Like I said, it's become stale. 8 nodes which everyone can breeze through, 9 or more for some with broken nodes 11 and 12, 2 to 4 hard nodes at the most depending on aforementioned broken nodes.

For someone still not getting the point, remember how everyone clapped because the boring and easily doable challenges got simmable? GW is that for me, easily doable and boring. 15 minutes? Yes, so were the challenges.

There is no reason it should require 15 min of your time. As I said. I might not even be in the same room with my device while battles are being autoed. It might require 5 min of my actual attention on a bad day. It's already nearly "simmable." I would expect it to get easier.

"JacenRoe;c-1181262" wrote:

"Azraelrulez;c-1181248" wrote:
Didn't want to add anything to posts like the one I replied to abovr but seems some of you are mad at me that I think 15 minutes is too much.

Your situation might differ but my scenario: have to fight arena, anywhere from 15 to 20 minutes or more if I'm holding off a sniper. Around the same time for fleet. My guild does raids regularly, around 5 in a week apart from a bonus one every other time. 30 to 60 minutes for that. That's an hour to 2 hours 5 days a week. Then heists, events etc.

Now, to go back to my OP, new territory battles are coming in. Most likely, it'll be a time sink too. If it is, GW in its present form is not something I'll be looking forward to. Like I said, it's become stale. 8 nodes which everyone can breeze through, 9 or more for some with broken nodes 11 and 12, 2 to 4 hard nodes at the most depending on aforementioned broken nodes.

For someone still not getting the point, remember how everyone clapped because the boring and easily doable challenges got simmable? GW is that for me, easily doable and boring. 15 minutes? Yes, so were the challenges.

There is no reason it should require 15 min of your time. As I said. I might not even be in the same room with my device while battles are being autoed. It might require 5 min of my actual attention on a bad day. It's already nearly "simmable." I would expect it to get easier.

one could argue that if it's auto-able, it should be sim-able.

"leef;c-1181268" wrote:

"JacenRoe;c-1181262" wrote:

"Azraelrulez;c-1181248" wrote:
Didn't want to add anything to posts like the one I replied to abovr but seems some of you are mad at me that I think 15 minutes is too much.

Your situation might differ but my scenario: have to fight arena, anywhere from 15 to 20 minutes or more if I'm holding off a sniper. Around the same time for fleet. My guild does raids regularly, around 5 in a week apart from a bonus one every other time. 30 to 60 minutes for that. That's an hour to 2 hours 5 days a week. Then heists, events etc.

Now, to go back to my OP, new territory battles are coming in. Most likely, it'll be a time sink too. If it is, GW in its present form is not something I'll be looking forward to. Like I said, it's become stale. 8 nodes which everyone can breeze through, 9 or more for some with broken nodes 11 and 12, 2 to 4 hard nodes at the most depending on aforementioned broken nodes.

For someone still not getting the point, remember how everyone clapped because the boring and easily doable challenges got simmable? GW is that for me, easily doable and boring. 15 minutes? Yes, so were the challenges.

There is no reason it should require 15 min of your time. As I said. I might not even be in the same room with my device while battles are being autoed. It might require 5 min of my actual attention on a bad day. It's already nearly "simmable." I would expect it to get easier.

one could argue that if it's auto-able, it should be sim-able.

That's true, however I bet it looks better for their data when my iPad had the game open for the amount of time it took to do it even if I was folding laundry the whole time.

"BoxandthefuzzForever;c-1181260" wrote:
Please don't. GW is my favourite part of the game. I can't wait to do it everyday. I wish it was harder and longer. It's the only game mode in the game that we get to play regularly. Why do you even play the game if you don't want to play the game?

Why do you even care if I "play the game if I don't want to play the game?"

Oh, GW is my favorite, I wish it was.... Newsflash, your favorite doesn't mean it's everyones. I play the game because I like it. I do GW even though I don't like it because it is important for progress in the game I like.

Another thing, you wish it was harder and longer ie you want a rework? Read my posts, I want a rework too. In fact just read my original post instead of just jumping in with variations of "don't play".

PS. I think you're playing a different game than me anyway since GW is the only regular game mode in your game. In my game, we have lots of regular modes. Unfortunately some are repetitive, stale and not challenging in any way at all. Some have sim options to dull the repetition, some don't.

@JacenRoe, so your argument against any changes like simming etc is that it can already be autoed? So, in your opinion, pressing the auto button 12 times is better than pressing sim 12 times?
Look, some like it because they find it a challenge. More power to them. Some like the distraction during commutes or such. Good for them. They atleast make sense.

But in the challenges, DS/LS/Cantina nodes, you face the same squads every single time, so it's easy to consider that, if you beat it once without losing anyone, you'd be able to beat it every single time. On the contrary, GW's teams change. Whether it's through new characters appearing, new abilities (omegas, zetas, etc), different team compositions, we face a great variability. It's difficult to consider that we would never find a team comp we could not beat - or not with the first squad. And if you improve your top 5 characters, you risk facing stronger teams, that you may have more difficulty beating. So, where to draw the line of being able to sim ? When you beat the whole of GW with twelve different squads without losing anyone ? It's not clear-cut for me, so it shouldn't be simmable.

On the contrary, for Credit Heist and Smuggling Droids, I agree a possibility to sim them would be appreciated.

"Azraelrulez;c-1181321" wrote:
@JacenRoe, so your argument against any changes like simming etc is that it can already be autoed? So, in your opinion, pressing the auto button 12 times is better than pressing sim 12 times?
Look, some like it because they find it a challenge. More power to them. Some like the distraction during commutes or such. Good for them. They atleast make sense.

Not everyone can auto it. Early on it's a major challenge, and the devs have said they want it that way. Since it gives solid rewards, and is meant to be a challenge, and is constantly evolving in difficulty, and isn't effortless for the majority of new players then I think it's totally different than a static daily challenge that I can auto with one toon for garbage rewards.

I think expecting a GW sim button is totally unrealistic. It's not reasonable to expect the devs to parse out the whales, and people who have been at it for 18 months plus, and find it easy/repetitive to give them a sim button. If anything I would expect them to try to make it harder. As I said, they have repeatedly said they want it to be hard. The devs totally ignored a 9,000 page hate thread that resulted after they jacked up GW difficulty last June/July. So all that said if you're one of the fortunate few who can blitz it so quickly then I'd find something else to complain about. Otherwise they might make it worse.

@Ambassador, good points. I personally think less nodes would also do the trick. The 1st 5 nodes, why are they even there? Isn't 1 easy node enough? Why can't they lump the rewards from the 5 into 1? Early game development, they needed to stretch it out. Now?

Edit: please just vote here.