How is that even remotely a match-up?

Where you see diference?I couldnt find my opponents but could it be the join? 9 people didnt join so despite our guild having 160mil we are 2 brackets lower.

Your opponent is sandbagging. Check how many teams you need to set each zone

Makes it a little unfair when you're up against a guild that is sandbagging, when they have 35 traya to our 5, and 30 revan to our 10. No wonder they have 57 wins in TW. They leave off their lowest members so that it's a matchup against all 4m accounts.

We have a difference of 31 million GP.....but there are only 20 teams per zone so they only had 40 out of 50 join, while we had 49/50....so that's how we got matched up."Dblade21;c-1859595" wrote:Makes it a little unfair when you're up against a guild that is sandbagging, when they have 35 traya to our 5, and 30 revan to our 10. No wonder they have 57 wins in TW. They leave off their lowest members so that it's a matchup against all 4m accounts. If they have several very low "raid ticket" alt accounts, then sure....but I doubt that people stick around in guilds where they aren't allowed to participate in TW and get the rewards. You really think people are okay with just being told they can't get the zeta/omega/ability mats and the GEC and the guild currency and credits every TW and have to sit on the sidelines? That sounds like a stretch. Now, if they have several sub 1 mil GP alt accounts that are there just to get raid tickets, then ok.

They need more reward tiers to keep this behavior from continuing. To come into a war 50m down is just malicious bullying.

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timmyd819
6 years ago
They are just a loaded guild. Lowest gp in their guild is 2.9m, with an average GP of 3.6m, whereas my guild is an average of 2.5m, with accounts as low as 1.1m
Waquira
6 years ago
"StoemKnight;d-203825" wrote:
How is that even remotely a match-up?

"StoemKnight;d-203825" wrote:
How is that even remotely a match-up?

I don't believe there's a 26 million GP difference. Don't compare total GP. Compare active GP only.
Kisakee
6 years ago
TW matchmaking is following two simple rules:
1. Number of members joined - It's always in the same bracket with just one player in difference at maximum, 25-26, 27-28, 29-30 and so on.
2. Total GP of members joined - Only these are counted, not the wholes guild GP.

Example: If a guild has 40 members with 3 million GP in average and 30 of them joining it's 30x3 = 90 million GP, the enemies guild will have 29 or 30 players joined with around 90 million GP too. And that's it. Of course one guild can have 15 people with 2 million GP and 15 with 4 million while the other guild has 30 players with 3 million straight. That's still the same in math.
timmyd819
6 years ago
Which is why they need to look at more than just numbers and total GP. It creates these mismatches. The should look at average GP (would at least be closer to equal footing) and also match certain toons (revan, DR, CLS, traya, maybe a few other overly strong toons) so that you have fair matches. Guaranteed the front two zones will be a traya wall and a revan wall. We have nowhere enough counters to get through those both. If they made the matchups more even, then it would be more fun. And I've been on the other side of this too. A few TW back, we faced a guild with no revan and no traya. We set all our revan on defense in the front two zones, and they couldn't clear.
tvsfrink
6 years ago
"Dblade21;c-1859595" wrote:
Makes it a little unfair when you're up against a guild that is sandbagging, when they have 35 traya to our 5, and 30 revan to our 10. No wonder they have 57 wins in TW. They leave off their lowest members so that it's a matchup against all 4m accounts.

We have 56 wins and never do this.
tvsfrink
6 years ago
"Kisakee;c-1859966" wrote:
TW matchmaking is following two simple rules:
1. Number of members joined - It's always in the same bracket with just one player in difference at maximum, 25-26, 27-28, 29-30 and so on.
2. Total GP of members joined - Only these are counted, not the wholes guild GP.

Example: If a guild has 40 members with 3 million GP in average and 30 of them joining it's 30x3 = 90 million GP, the enemies guild will have 29 or 30 players joined with around 90 million GP too. And that's it. Of course one guild can have 15 people with 2 million GP and 15 with 4 million while the other guild has 30 players with 3 million straight. That's still the same in math.

The Devs have refused to give exact matchmaking rules so people can't exploit them. #2 is an assumption on your part.
engraham
6 years ago
Well, in the end, it didn't work out for them. (double clear)
Immorta1Lynx
6 years ago
That's not true at all from what this war has shown me. 48 (us) 38 (them) and they have a rediculous advantage on us. Here's their swgoh.gg guild page:
https://swgoh.gg/g/2603/ksnova-ordemks/

Here's us:
https://swgoh.gg/g/53610/lars-family-barbecue/
Kisakee
6 years ago
"TVF;c-1860063" wrote:
The Devs have refused to give exact matchmaking rules so people can't exploit them. #2 is an assumption on your part.

We faced other guilds below 160 million GP while we where above that threshold. It was counted as a battle in the below 160 million GP bracket, not all of us fought in that TW. For me that pretty much confirms it.

"DarjeloSalas;c-1860078" wrote:
We’re setting 22 per zone (enemy has 43 or 44) and we have 46 signed up.

"Immorta1lynx;c-1860749" wrote:
That's not true at all from what this war has shown me. 48 (us) 38 (them) and they have a rediculous advantage on us. Here's their swgoh.gg guild page:
https://swgoh.gg/g/2603/ksnova-ordemks/

Here's us:
https://swgoh.gg/g/53610/lars-family-barbecue/

I've never seen it before that two guilds were matched with a big difference in total guild GP. It looks like the GP of your 48 people were combines against their combined 38 which confirms my #2, only GP of listed players are counted. But how do you know they were only 38? You got only 19 spots per territory?
tvsfrink
6 years ago
"Kisakee;c-1861151" wrote:
"TVF;c-1860063" wrote:
The Devs have refused to give exact matchmaking rules so people can't exploit them. #2 is an assumption on your part.

We faced other guilds below 160 million GP while we where above that threshold. It was counted as a battle in the below 160 million GP bracket, not all of us fought in that TW. For me that pretty much confirms it.

There is no matchmaking bracket. There is a rewards bracket that is entirely based on your active GP and has nothing to do with matchmaking. If that confirms it for you, then you are confirmed to be incorrect.