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DVZR
7 years ago

EP + Sion Arena

Im still running a CLS team and I float around 100-150 on an older shard. Maybe switch to EP to move up below 100.

Have Sion at 4 stars. Is he arena viable there and if so what EP team? EP Vader Shore Sion + ? I can outspeed 75% of people at my level.

Thrawn, Tarkin DN Or Storm? My SiT is only 5 Star and DN is 6. I have Sid at 7 also but dont think he belongs.

Thanks in Advance.
  • Itsatrap5000's avatar
    Itsatrap5000
    7 years ago
    DN unique is giving him too much TM. That’s why it works so well. I am convinced this is a bug. DN gets 10% TM when Sion is debuffed. I have tested this in a Arena and used many attempts and get the same results. Enemy DN is jumping ahead of my much faster toons, even assuming DN gets 10% for each debuff on Sion. Anyone else seeing this? (You need to do maths:)
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    449710430e37db5
    7 years ago
    "Itsatrap5000;c-1500780" wrote:
    DN unique is giving him too much TM. That’s why it works so well. I am convinced this is a bug. DN gets 10% TM when Sion is debuffed. I have tested this in a Arena and used many attempts and get the same results. Enemy DN is jumping ahead of my much faster toons, even assuming DN gets 10% for each debuff on Sion. Anyone else seeing this? (You need to do maths:)


    It is stated quite explicitly on the ability that it is 10% for each debuff...
  • Itsatrap5000's avatar
    Itsatrap5000
    7 years ago
    First, you are wrong, the description does not state “each” debuff expressly. It says “a debuff”, which is ambiguous.
    Second, as I said, I calculated the TM for 10% for each debuff anyway.
    Third, even calculating the TM gains for each debuff on Sion, DN is getting more TM than his unique should provide.
    Fourth, has anyone else seen this?
  • DVZR's avatar
    DVZR
    7 years ago
    Is it under a EP lead and he getting TM from expiring buffs?
  • jim887my's avatar
    jim887my
    7 years ago
    Gives enemy vader speed but GK really makes sion I average 2 hatreds a match. Gk retribution spreads out the pain fast
  • Itsatrap5000's avatar
    Itsatrap5000
    7 years ago
    "VonZant;c-1501102" wrote:
    Is it under a EP lead and he getting TM from expiring buffs?


    Thanks. Yes, it is under EP. I did control for that and checked expiring debuffs. Perhaps I missed one. That early in the match, I don’t think there are any debuffs expiring/being cleared, given the toons involved.
  • Itsatrap5000's avatar
    Itsatrap5000
    7 years ago
    "Morrigan10;c-1501124" wrote:
    "Itsatrap5000;c-1500897" wrote:
    First, you are wrong, the description does not state “each” debuff expressly. It says “a debuff”, which is ambiguous.
    Second, as I said, I calculated the TM for 10% for each debuff anyway.
    Third, even calculating the TM gains for each debuff on Sion, DN is getting more TM than his unique should provide.
    Fourth, has anyone else seen this?


    I'm sorry but your argument is invalid. It states "debuff" in other words it's PER debuff, not per unique debuffs. Check your facts before complaining.


    Did you even read my question? How about being helpful or not posting anything.
  • jmille2010's avatar
    jmille2010
    7 years ago
    "VonZant;d-163030" wrote:
    Im still running a CLS team and I float around 100-150 on an older shard. Maybe switch to EP to move up below 100.

    Have Sion at 4 stars. Is he arena viable there and if so what EP team? EP Vader Shore Sion + ? I can outspeed 75% of people at my level.

    Thrawn, Tarkin DN Or Storm? My SiT is only 5 Star and DN is 6. I have Sid at 7 also but dont think he belongs.

    Thanks in Advance.


    Just pointing out Sid has several debuffs that, with Sith AOE, likely expire immediately. So... 25% TM after his special.
  • DVZR's avatar
    DVZR
    7 years ago
    @Wassup I ram into a team with a really fast Sid the other day in arena and he cleaned me up fast. Up to 4 extra debuffs on his AOE and the exposes pop immediatley if you put him between vader and Sion. Im gearing mine up now to test him out.

    Im curious if his zeta gives him extra health from EPs potency lead?
  • TheeMoBlaq's avatar
    TheeMoBlaq
    7 years ago
    "Riktoven2;c-1495567" wrote:
    EP, DV,DS, DN, Thrawn


    Rex, Mother T, Thrawn, Sion, Nihilus

    I am currently using this team and it seems far more useful even against the Meta

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