Hello everyone. We all play the game, and it belongs to the genre of strategy, where the outcome of the battle should depend on the player.But most of all, the battles in the GK vs GK fleet, with mirrored compositions, are saddening in the game. Where the whole outcome of the battle depends on the randomness. Which is very sad. Since if the player went first, then everything is 100%, victory, you don't even have to think too much. If the opponent went first, then all 90% of the defeat. This is a terrible indicator of the imbalance in the game, and the lack of a strategic component).

You can manipulate opening turn order with your choice of starting lineup, target selection and abilities used.

Why don't you use a counter that gives an almost 100% chance to win instead? You know..... Strategy.

"Darth_Viel;c-2272125" wrote:"Mirlighter;c-2272115" wrote:"DarjeloSalas;c-2272110" wrote:Simple solution: don’t fight mirrors. Use Malevolence v Negotiator and vice versa. That strategic enough?There are trains that Malevolence cannot pass by a detachment of separatists.For example JMK, BTL, Asoka.Very small chance of winning.Just to clarify, when you say JMK, you mean JKA right?because JMK doesnt have a ship.Yet

"Mirlighter;c-2272112" wrote:"Rath_Tarr;c-2272109" wrote:You can manipulate opening turn order with your choice of starting lineup, target selection and abilities used.No, if the enemy went first, with mirror compositions. There are options that are at the beginning of your turn. JMK is already dead. Which gives 99% defeat.If you have even one fighter that can go first then yes, you can manipulate the turn order and there are multiple fighters which can out-speed both Negotiator and Anakin's Eta-2. I do it every day for my fleet arena climb.Or as DarjeloSalas and others have noted you can avoid the mirror. A 5-star Malevolence can beat a 7-star Negotiator if you have your fighters powered up and you know what you are doing. Some Negotiator lineups are more difficult / risky but all are beatable.

Also not true. I can win mirrors even if they go first.

Fleet. GK vs GK! A senseless random.

Mirlighter
4 years ago
"Rath_Tarr;c-2272109" wrote:
You can manipulate opening turn order with your choice of starting lineup, target selection and abilities used.

No, if the enemy went first, with mirror compositions. There are options that are at the beginning of your turn. JMK is already dead. Which gives 99% defeat.
Mirlighter
4 years ago
"DarjeloSalas;c-2272110" wrote:
Simple solution: don’t fight mirrors. Use Malevolence v Negotiator and vice versa. That strategic enough?

There are trains that Malevolence cannot pass by a detachment of separatists.

For example JMK, BTL, Asoka.Very small chance of winning.
Mirlighter
4 years ago
"Waqui;c-2272113" wrote:
Why don't you use a counter that gives an almost 100% chance to win instead? You know..... Strategy.

With the correct composition of the enemy, there is no such thing.
zizou9810
New Novice
4 years ago
I manage to get first positions with a 6* Neg., and R3 GK, against 7* Neg. with R8 GKs.

It’s hard, and its not a guaranteed win. But if you get your Fives special in the right time, getting JKA down, it’s game over.
MasterSeedy
Rising Ace
4 years ago
No, if the enemy went first, with mirror compositions. There are options that are at the beginning of your turn. JMK is already dead. Which gives 99% defeat.

For example JMK, BTL, Asoka.Very small chance of winning.

Just to clarify, when you say JMK, you mean JKA right?because JMK doesnt have a ship.

Again, this is why the only reasonable acronym for the new version of Kenobi is GLOW.
AntarioXP
4 years ago
You can win Negotiator mirror matches consistently. You can even win R7 vs R8 consistently, where enemy negotiator always goes first.

Just use Youtube and type "SWGOH Negotiator mirror" and you'll get the answer how...
adamja
Rising Newcomer
4 years ago
i can win even if enemy starts, just annoying and tedious
Waquira
4 years ago
"Mirlighter;c-2272118" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2272113" wrote:
Why don't you use a counter that gives an almost 100% chance to win instead? You know..... Strategy.

With the correct composition of the enemy, there is no such thing.

There's your problem, then. Lack of knowledge about proper counters.
NyKynoe
4 years ago
"Mirlighter;c-2272112" wrote:
"Rath_Tarr;c-2272109" wrote:
You can manipulate opening turn order with your choice of starting lineup, target selection and abilities used.

No, if the enemy went first, with mirror compositions. There are options that are at the beginning of your turn. JMK is already dead. Which gives 99% defeat.

This should lead you down the path towards the fact that mirror matches have a lower win ratio and you should adjust your strategy to avoid those.
StealthGOBLIN32
4 years ago
Just use a non-negotiator fleet.