Moff Gideon ai issue

"MaruMaru;c-2238197" wrote:
I suggest you not listen to kyno. He's not a developer, he has no say on what won't/can't be done.

Yes I am not a developer, but I do absolutely have a good idea of what will not be changed.

I was also very involved in the conversation around Moff and this specific point came up.

"MaruMaru;c-2238333" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2237883" wrote:


And while it may not be done the "right way", some are just trying to talk a player through the issue they are having, as this is not a change that is going to be made.

"Kyno;c-2238329" wrote:


I never said they cant change it down the line, but I guess we can wait and see who is correct about this as time goes on.

You didn't? I think I know how future tense in english looks like.

Ok your right I did say that (although in my context, I am expressing that as the idea those players are aware of, as that is likely what they believe). I also 100% dont think it will change, but I will say, I agree with you they may choose to change it.

Again, let's wait and see down the line who is correct.

I did not once question the legitimacy of the request, but did try to share some insight I have on the topic, as I did hear a direct comment about this situation that leads me to believe this will not change.

"prime311;c-2238186" wrote:

"RTS;c-2238022" wrote:

"Bulldog1205;c-2237846" wrote:
He's requesting the issue be fixed.

Nowhere in the post is he saying / asking for that.

His post came across as more of a complaint about it happening, not questioning the AI choice, but that may be because I read the forums regularly and remember when this was discussed early on with Gideon.

I’m requesting CG to fix it. I thought that was obvious. They release AI tweaks regularly, especially on popular new content. I didn’t know whether this was always a problem or had changed recently or whether it was discussed in the community previously or not as there was nothing on the front forum pages about it.

This request has been made before, and it seems this is an intended situation for this character to be in.

While this may not be the ideal situation the players want, some times these choices are made for balance reasons, or other factors.

They do design characters with some intended roles (offense/defense, ext.) and even with an intended level of usefulness due to how they are obtained (marquee, or various other event types)

I am not saying this is a non issue, or that changes couldnt be made later, but this point was expressed in conversation with them and the design is what was intended for the factors listed above. The newness of a toon or thier popularity doesnt always play a factor in this decision, or at least not a main one.

I believe they made some comments about this, but I will have to go back and look. Either way, I can assure you this specific point was raised and at this time doesnt seem to have any traction for change.

Troopers have always been an offensive team. Deal with it

"MaruMaru;c-2238382" wrote:

"Gifafi;c-2238380" wrote:
Troopers have always been an offensive team. Deal with it

There didn't use to be a Moff or dark trooper or reworks. Always doesn't cover perpetuity.

Yeah

"MaruMaru;c-2238328" wrote:

"Treeburner;c-2238310" wrote:

"MaruMaru;c-2238247" wrote:
No you don't. The only thing you have is that they are not considering changing it currently which can change both on their own accord or through feedback of players you regularly put down.

as you seem to know more , would you like to share your facts and opinions in the matter ?

Know more about what? We have community managers and developers. Developers make changes depending on community feedback, cave in and change the -intent behind- things. Most of the time there's backdraws to these changes. All public info. Then there's this person that's not in the decision loop and has different duties which regularly tells us what can not be talked about in any legitimacy or asked from devs while we don't hear similar statements from community managers or devs themselves.

Do you think kyno is lying about what he heard and was present for? , or are you saying that what they said that he overheard was a lie ?
I'm struggling to see were all your anger is coming from.
Are you upset that he told us that the devs have said that they don't want it changed , yeah that doesn't mean it's definitely going to stay that way , but what it does mean is... don't get your hopes up to much .
Nothing wrong with this sentiment as far as I'm aware

"Kyno;c-2237883" wrote:

"Bulldog1205;c-2237862" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2237850" wrote:

"Bulldog1205;c-2237846" wrote:
I'll never understand the "don't use him on defense" type posts that come with so many legitimate complaints.

The OP isn't asking for recommendations on how to avoid the issue. He's requesting the issue be fixed. I'm not sure people realize how degrading it is to essentially just tell someone their issue isn't important.

But what if the design intent of the characters AI is for him to be used on offense and to not make him "too powerful" as his is only a marquee character.

I disagree with this, but that's not my point. You've given a reason for having an opinion that it shouldn't be changed, and that's fine. Thats healthy discussion. I don't believe everyone has to agree. But telling him to not use imperial troopers on defense, when he clearly knows that and it's the reason he's complaining, is just dismissive and sometimes hurtful, even if people aren't intending for it to be.

I understand.

It's not my opinion, that is a level of the design intent with this character.

And while it may not be done the "right way", some are just trying to talk a player through the issue they are having, as this is not a change that is going to be made.

So then why are you upset this time, when I clearly did exactly what you asked me to do?

"Kyno;c-2238460" wrote:
That is an interesting take on someone explaining a situation based on knowledge they have......

Either way, let's get back on topic and move on.

My whole point . None of us but you claim to be there so we either believe or call you a liar or say that your trying to bully , I think that what he's trying to say