NS Viability

They are becoming weaker now that more have been building them and know how to combat them. Troopers are an easy counter. Tons of people are putting a zeta on Veers right now.

"Putnam;c-1436331" wrote:
They are becoming weaker now that more have been building them and know how to combat them. Troopers are an easy counter. Tons of people are putting a zeta on Veers right now.

In that case, of course you're right, split them and use them on offense. But if the enemies haven't the counters, put them on defense in one squad

I totally agree that they are better on defense than offense though.

Since this is thread bout NS, may i ask question bout NS mechanic on TW defence?

About MT zeta lead, the dead NS will call to assist, and if the assist killed someone the dead NS will revive.

Let's say someone attack my NS team, then my defence team win, MT still alive, but couple NS dead.

Then someone attack me again, question is:
If my NS attack someone with basic in round 2, will the dead NS in round 1 call for assist? or who's dead in round 1 is permanent dead in round 1, can't call to assist or revive in next round?

Ok thanks y'all for the reply! Now i know who will get my next zeta: barris. Will be annoying def team pair with GK :lol:

"ewqewqc;c-1436260" wrote:
You do your thing bro. If your enemies don't have troopers or if they don't understand the 2 mechanics well (plague and aco+zom), they might really struggle vs NS.
The most basic tip I can give is Omega on zom unique, and omegas on aco basic+unique.
After it, is zeta on MT, and watch them burn.
If you don't have Ventress high, JKAnakin is great option that can create havoc with zombie keep dying.

Once those NS teams have GK in them though and Zombie isn't a gimp it's a different ballgame. Might be best D slot at high tier.

Yep. NS+GK is surely hard, especially if it's arena team.
But point stands , troopers can still beat it. (Just need bit stronger troopers)

"ewqewqc;c-1436209" wrote:
big waste to use it on defense. can be countered easily by troopers.
but on offense, they are amazing. can remove CLS squads, can remove jRey squads. you can even split them and beat both CLS and jRey squads with some fillers involved. (when they are geared better, not in your scenario)
MT Leadership zeta make it from strong squad to amazing one.

This is exactly why you want them on defense. Someone in the other guild has to use their good trooper team to take yours out. Especially if you're in an average guild. Most of the other average guilds you'll face aren't gonna have a lot of full trooper teams

"scuba;c-1436875" wrote:
NS are way better on offense in TW, especially if they are under developed.

Just look at what they are doing in squad arena weak NS teams are beating the cls and Rjt arena teams.

Depends on how strong your guild is. Mine fighting in the 60 million GP range run and the handful of nightsister teams we use hold off multiple teams before getting beaten

On the other hand, I can understand how a strong guild would want them on offense--because the guilds they will be facing usually will have well developed trooper teams, which can crush nightsister teams on offense

"Tuftedpaper85;c-1436871" wrote:

"ewqewqc;c-1436209" wrote:
big waste to use it on defense. can be countered easily by troopers.
but on offense, they are amazing. can remove CLS squads, can remove jRey squads. you can even split them and beat both CLS and jRey squads with some fillers involved. (when they are geared better, not in your scenario)
MT Leadership zeta make it from strong squad to amazing one.

This is exactly why you want them on defense. Someone in the other guild has to use their good trooper team to take yours out. Especially if you're in an average guild. Most of the other average guilds you'll face aren't gonna have a lot of full trooper teams

Might be. I think the conclusion is that on high levels, where the offense for sure have troopers, NS will become a waste of defense, but still will be useful as very cheap and very powerful counter to strong squads that are guaranteed to be put in defense.
While for lower guilds, NS for defense can really surprise the enemy. But it will still require more than 1 NS squad. Wall of 25 - might be enough as surprise, with some variations of GK as 5th, JKa, zSid and such.