Royal Guard viable in pvp now?

He's a 2-node mission farm, so even if he's good, only whales are going to use him. By the time any of us can get him to a decent star level, the meta will have shifted again.

"Triqui;137405" wrote:

"Metschina123;137343" wrote:

"Zekex;137319" wrote:

"Metschina123;136990" wrote:
He is going to be the new Poe, you hear it here first

no worries, like the new poe, it will be nerfed/reworked/rebalanced soon.

He is a much tougher farm than Poe though. I don't think most of the players are able to abuse him for a while.

He can't do a time bubble at the fastest speed either. Taunt was not the reason why Poe was strong. It was because of the ability to move your entire team before enemy blinked

True. So RG will be very good but not op

Just read the thread.. Not laughing now at my Empire team ?

"Ivan_Drago;137416" wrote:

"Triqui;137405" wrote:

"Metschina123;137343" wrote:

"Zekex;137319" wrote:

"Metschina123;136990" wrote:
He is going to be the new Poe, you hear it here first

no worries, like the new poe, it will be nerfed/reworked/rebalanced soon.

He is a much tougher farm than Poe though. I don't think most of the players are able to abuse him for a while.

He can't do a time bubble at the fastest speed either. Taunt was not the reason why Poe was strong. It was because of the ability to move your entire team before enemy blinked

He will taunt right after your first shot. The regardless of how fast your dps is (unless you one-shot, but with bariss in lead it is difficult to one-shot)

Yes but then I still keep acting with my guys. Big difference.

Let's take abmatch between a droid team and a pretty cookie vuttrt Sid, Dooku, Kylo, Phasma (L) FOTP team.

Before:
His Poe wins the Coin toss. His Poggle buff. His 88 AOE, then kill my Sid with the extra attsck from crits. His 86 one shot my Dooku. His 47 AOE and maybe block or debuff my remaining and very wounded chars, and perhaps kills FOTP or any character who got exposed if he attacks twice with the crits. In any case, I've lost, 2-3 of my chars are dead, the rest are wounded and debuffed, I have to kill his tank, and probably will lose


Now:
Dooku attacks, Wound 88, RG taunt for free. That's fine. My Turn. Sid AOE, damage 88 and the rest. Phasma adds adventage and TM. Kylo AOE and finish 88, maybe proc Phasma as he is FO. FOTP kills the wounded RG. Sid has maybe gained TM from the deaths too. Now it is Droid turn. They have 88 dead, RG dead, and 86 and the rest has taken 2 AOE, I still have Phasma AOE to use. His tank is dead and I can target anyone of his bsdly wounded chars. I'm in pretty good shape.

Poe was powerful not because he taunted, but because he was a walking time bubble. In scenario 1 the droids have already won, and Poe has not been attacked yet. His skill could not have a Taunt, just the turnmeter msnipulation at fasyer speed, and he would had won the battle regardless.

I think some people never really understood why they were winning with Poe. It was not because he had a taunt.

Note: that doesnt mean RG would not be useful. He will. Just that he is not going to be Poe2.0 as he lacks the thing that made Poe the strongest char in the game

"Triqui;137459" wrote:

"Ivan_Drago;137416" wrote:

"Triqui;137405" wrote:

"Metschina123;137343" wrote:

"Zekex;137319" wrote:

"Metschina123;136990" wrote:
He is going to be the new Poe, you hear it here first

no worries, like the new poe, it will be nerfed/reworked/rebalanced soon.

He is a much tougher farm than Poe though. I don't think most of the players are able to abuse him for a while.

He can't do a time bubble at the fastest speed either. Taunt was not the reason why Poe was strong. It was because of the ability to move your entire team before enemy blinked

He will taunt right after your first shot. The regardless of how fast your dps is (unless you one-shot, but with bariss in lead it is difficult to one-shot)

Yes but then I still keep acting with my guys. Big difference.

Let's take abmatch between a droid team and a pretty cookie vuttrt Sid, Dooku, Kylo, Phasma (L) FOTP team.

Before:
His Poe wins the Coin toss. His Poggle buff. His 88 AOE, then kill my Sid with the extra attsck from crits. His 86 one shot my Dooku. His 47 AOE and maybe block or debuff my remaining and very wounded chars, and perhaps kills FOTP or any character who got exposed if he attacks twice with the crits. In any case, I've lost, 2-3 of my chars are dead, the rest are wounded and debuffed, I have to kill his tank, and probably will lose


Now:
Dooku attacks, Wound 88, RG taunt for free. That's fine. My Turn. Sid AOE, damage 88 and the rest. Phasma adds adventage and TM. Kylo AOE and finish 88, maybe proc Phasma as he is FO. FOTP kills the wounded RG. Sid has maybe gained TM from the deaths too. Now it is Droid turn. They have 88 dead, RG dead, and 86 and the rest has taken 2 AOE, I still have Phasma AOE to use. His tank is dead and I can target anyone of his bsdly wounded chars. I'm in pretty good shape.

Poe was powerful not because he taunted, but because he was a walking time bubble. In scenario 1 the droids have already won, and Poe has not been attacked yet. His skill could not have a Taunt, just the turnmeter msnipulation at fasyer speed, and he would had won the battle regardless.

I think some people never really understood why they were winning with Poe. It was not because he had a taunt.

After reading this RG post, I was wondering if the REBEL team could use him. The one you recommended me. I was thinking Ackbar (L), Han Stormtrooper, Leia, GS, and RG. Leia stealths first. Gs takes one cannon out or prob bring someone low. Han with Ackbar goes pretty quick, like 144 speed. Once he taughts and gets hit, turn meter manipulation and chance for RG to taunt. So even if Han can't take that many hits i'll still have RG with huge amount of health to tank it while Leia and GS with super speed taking the rest out.

I'm still working on the REBEL team. Currently Leia is 7* with GEAR VII almost VIII after I finish that AGI +25 thingy, needs 50 of it. Ackbar almost 6* Han almost 7* . Hope it works out.

BTW I have tons of shards for RG, like 283 or something. Still aint sure if I should invest in him.

"Plasmaj;137487" wrote:
Will he taunt right after the ally falls below 50% or at the start of RG's turn? If the former, does the taunt only last until it is RG's turn (a 1 turn taunt)?
Triqui, I see your point, but that is just one case. If RG is hiding high speed / high dps, it changes. It also requires the other team to have decent AOE to hit behind the RG

It is not 1 case, it is always. The difference between RG and Poe is that RG let you use your chars. Old Poe didnt. No matter what chars you put in the example, being able to use them is better tha not. You could hide Leia, GS and friends behind RG, but I still can use my own Leía, and stealth. Or use my own Daka, and ressurrect the guy you killed. Or use my Poggle to buff, or my Yoda to give tenacity to my team. With old Poe, you clicked a button, then you did 5 things in a row, then it is my turn to try to do something with whstever half dead team you left me. That was the real power of Poe, and the reason why he had to be nerfed. There is nothing wrong with a fast tank who could taunt and protector other chars. That is expected from tanks. The problem was with a fast living Time Lord who could warp the space-time continuum in a blink.

I think RG will be great, and add a lot to the game in forma of new options. Poe was disruptive.

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at level 7:

Unyielding Defender – Royal Guard gains 11% Health Up per living ally. In addition, whenever an ally falls below 30% Health, there is a 40% chance Royal Guard will Taunt for 2 turns.


So it s only 40% chance he taunts at maximum so is not even sure this dude will taunt anyway...

Also if members of your squads are directly killed or still above 30% health he wont even taunt either so there are a lot of IF for RG to taunt anyway...