Royal Guard viable in pvp now?

"vincentlondon;138027" wrote:
at level 7:

Unyielding Defender – Royal Guard gains 11% Health Up per living ally. In addition, whenever an ally falls below 30% Health, there is a 40% chance Royal Guard will Taunt for 2 turns.


So it s only 40% chance he taunts at maximum so is not even sure this dude will taunt anyway...

Also if members of your squads are directly killed or still above 30% health he wont even taunt either so there are a lot of IF for RG to taunt anyway...

You missed the post with the updates that go live this week, didn't you?

"Qeltar;137418" wrote:
He's a 2-node mission farm, so even if he's good, only whales are going to use him. By the time any of us can get him to a decent star level, the meta will have shifted again.

I have him at 58/65 to 5* and I've never farmed him, just had a slew of Bronzium drops.

Oh thanks for the link. Yes i was not aware of those new changes :|

Yes it seems abilities of RG will be improved

"Telaan;137060" wrote:
All that defense up and taunt will be delicious for QGJ to get the team offense up. I can't wait. I hope people run him.

You read my mind on this one. Everyone seems to think this instant taunt is some sort of automatic game-winner. All I could think was, "okay, move Jinn out of the leader slot, use DPS guys to get someone down to 50% just before Jinn's turn, BOOM".
I think some folks are in for a rude surprise.

"Qeltar;138964" wrote:

"Telaan;137060" wrote:
All that defense up and taunt will be delicious for QGJ to get the team offense up. I can't wait. I hope people run him.

You read my mind on this one. Everyone seems to think this instant taunt is some sort of automatic game-winner. All I could think was, "okay, move Jinn out of the leader slot, use DPS guys to get someone down to 50% just before Jinn's turn, BOOM".
I think some folks are in for a rude surprise.

So many toons can get stuff popping up to trigger, it's at the point I'm ready to say "darn the torpedoes". Not playing playing him because of QGJ is like saying "don't play GS because of QGJ". Phasma leader or anyone calling GS for an assist gives GS offense up, then QGJ hits him and BOOM.

"Metschina123;137429" wrote:

"Triqui;137405" wrote:

"Metschina123;137343" wrote:

"Zekex;137319" wrote:

"Metschina123;136990" wrote:
He is going to be the new Poe, you hear it here first

no worries, like the new poe, it will be nerfed/reworked/rebalanced soon.

He is a much tougher farm than Poe though. I don't think most of the players are able to abuse him for a while.

He can't do a time bubble at the fastest speed either. Taunt was not the reason why Poe was strong. It was because of the ability to move your entire team before enemy blinked

True. So RG will be very good but not op

Metschina, you yourself claimed that he is going to be the new poe. Rg is not going to make a time bubble, but he certainly is an enabler for many dps, aoe characters as well as for other characters with potent abilities like ability block/offense down.We both know he's going to be OP because every single time a character's hp drops below 50% hp, RG taunts out of turn and saves that character's bacon. This can be done multiple times which is why some people don't see how OP it is, even when you use a toon that can dispel taunt. RG has 17758 hp before including the 11% heath up per ally. That is a ton of hits/specials wasted before RG dies. The only reason why you are saying it is not OP/trying to find reasons why it is not OP is because you have a 5* RG which you want to abuse

Unavailability is not a valid reason to let OP characters remain as they are.

"Qeltar;138964" wrote:

"Telaan;137060" wrote:
All that defense up and taunt will be delicious for QGJ to get the team offense up. I can't wait. I hope people run him.

You read my mind on this one. Everyone seems to think this instant taunt is some sort of automatic game-winner. All I could think was, "okay, move Jinn out of the leader slot, use DPS guys to get someone down to 50% just before Jinn's turn, BOOM".
I think some folks are in for a rude surprise.

That's assuming you can get a character who's fast enough to move before the enemy team and do just enough damage to not trigger taunt and allow your other fast toons to follow up. And you have to do it for all the enemy characters.And you're assuming nothing happens to your toons while you're carrying out this process.

A Qgj that's not in the leader slot is an easy prey.One less dps to move before my team.They could also focus fire your QGJ if you don't have RG/QGJ leader

What about high hp characters?trying to get a character to 50%, and then 0%. Do too little, and you will have trouble one-shotting with the second hit. Do too much and you trigger taunt.

Multiple passive taunts from a high hp tank is not healthy for the game.

The point about him being able to do it multiple times is valid. I hadn't considered that.
I'm sure people will find ways to make him effective. But I do think it will also be exploited in various ways. Giving Rey a somewhat reliable Offense Up for her first attack is a pretty scary thought. AoEs are also a problem for this setup.
Anyway it has no real impact for me, I am not likely to start farming him from 2 hard nodes while I am already doing 3 other characters that way. So I may miss the next meta shift. :)

I for one will be happy to try out my new shiny 7* crayola next week. ^^

The HP removal made me sad. But the 5% speed buff whenever an ally is attacked translates into a whole lot of extra speed, especially since so many attacks nowadays can trigger ally assists or double attacks. Not to mention AOE.

Let's say the opponent throw out one Sid AOE and one GS assist attack. That's +30% turn meter right there, which brings Royal Guard to act next (he's at 75% turn meter when GS acts), with a decent chance to stun the next attacker (even more importantly, he'd act before Poe), possibly changing the entire dynamic of the battle.

Many mention QGJ being a problem. Yeah, sure. QGJ is always a problem. But there are options for counters, of course. Dooku can rather reliably ability block, for instance.

Or if you are feeling like walking off the beaten track and adding Asajj Ventress, now that her ability is fixed and ERG will make it at least somewhat harder to one-shot toons. If she's been badly beaten, nothing would be better to remedy that than a fully buffed opponent team.

I can see good things coming out of this.

It's also another mini buff for whales because us non-chromium people will have a hard time getting him to a decent star level even if we want to. I rarely get him even in bronzium packs.
Anyway, we'll see. I do like the idea of the auto-taunt. I'm not sure having him be able to do it multiple times is great, but realistically, unless it gets dispelled, he's not going to live long even with 17k HP.