Hi all,So- it seems likely that February will be a month of all things Sith. Seems for the time I've been playing they've not got a lot of love. From my impressions - they seem sturdy but not really that good at high-level Arena and most certainly not meta.So, your thoughts, if you will - do you use Sith? Do you rate them? Where particualrly in the game do you use them? If you're not a fan then why not?Probably on a very basic level - who do we think are the most useful Sith characters and who do we think are the least?Looking foward to reading everyone's answers!

"CoastalJames;d-156730" wrote:Hi all,So- it seems likely that February will be a month of all things Sith. Seems for the time I've been playing they've not got a lot of love. From my impressions - they seem sturdy but not really that good at high-level Arena and most certainly not meta.So, your thoughts, if you will - do you use Sith? Do you rate them? Where particualrly in the game do you use them? If you're not a fan then why not?Probably on a very basic level - who do we think are the most useful Sith characters and who do we think are the least?Looking foward to reading everyone's answers!Hi :)As you said, sith aren't meta.But that doesn't make them bad or unloved.And unuseful definetly not. You can use nearly every of them. It only depends on the team.Especially for TW a ZMaul lead team for example is really useful on defense. And they can be effective against Nightsisters

they have great kits but stayed behind because of stats. the ridiculous power creep killed them. (and R2, that obviously helped the stats of the his allies)i mean, look at that. Palpatine : AoE stun, Shock, gaining TM, and very powerful leader ability. his problem ? his damage is too weak, he's too squishy, and he's not fast enough. his kit, overall, is amazing, and very useful, shock, stun, TM gain, bonuses for Hp and potency ? sign me up! but too low stats. its not only "Sith" problem - look at plo koon. he's way ahead of his time... he have anti-stealth synergy, dispels, buffing and giving TM. but when he was released ? where we had no protection in this game even. he couldn't fit in a meta of glass cannons at all, it was all about speed and damage, and not utility. when the game did required some utility, plo was so behind in stats, that he couldnt be useful. So palp are in "good shape" compared to others, lol.Maul suffers the same - very slow, very squishy - with amazing Leader ability (even vs R2) and crazy unique. AoE daze that can help counter ANY meta team currently. but stats deny him from doing so.DN need to be hidden to be effective. its hard without Sith team, he supports them best... its the same with SithTrooper. without lot of siths around him, he's not a big deal. SA lacks unique, badly. great 2 specials, great synergy with stealth, but need a unique that will give him SOMETHING.but i think the biggest example are Vader and Sidious. both described as attackers, but lack serious damage. Sidious, especially with zeta, have some cool things - evasion, heal, tm gain, potency bonus... but his damage is so weak that he's irrelevant. vader the same - he's tanky, but all of his mechanics are completely outdated - DoTs are useless in PvP, his basic is sad, and his saber toss is useless without the DoTs. a good unique with a huge buff on basic will be able to change it.if i need to rank them (if Z / L in name, they need the zeta or Leader spot for this rank): DN , Zaul L , Zavage, Palpatine, SA , SithTrooper, Zader L, Zooku, zSidious.

Only 2/5 of those great ships you mentioned are Sith.

I started this game at launch and started sith then. They’re not meta but if you’re smart can still be competitive. I started my arena at 12,000 and now I float around <200. Sith teams rely heavily on zetas. zMaul, zSavage, EP, zNihilus, and either zVader or zSidious fill my arena team. HAAT can utilize sith in many parts. Zavage can Solo P1 & P3 with some good damage. Zader lead for P2 and P4 brings some terrific damage. Rancor raid is easily solo’d with Zader, Zidious, nihilus, TFP, & Rex. LETS RATE THEM. Opinions are mine and mine alone, your experience may differ.1. Vader. With his zeta he’s really invaluable for raids (I wish he was my first zeta honestly).2. Maul. Once I got maul (My first zeta) I cleared LS battles so fast. Best sith arena leader, counter to crit reliant teams, applies daze (great against FO). Forget about Jedi teams because he’ll just Solo them.3. Darth Nihilus. Super versatile toon, put him in any team and annihilate. Adds plenty of dmg to raid teams and will reduce cooldowns to slow your arena opponents. He’s my weapon against CLS.4. Emperor Palpatine. What can I say? Ruler of the galactic empire, played a whole galaxy like a muppet for 80 years. Phase 3 HAAT Chirpatine is the best damage I’ve got from any team there.5. Savage. All I can say is if he doesn’t have his zeta he’s not good. But once he does, WOW, just try and kill him 1v1 you can’t. Self and random sith cleanse, self healer, massive damage special attack that grants more buffs. 6. Sidious. He’s not quite a glass cannon, maybe glass shotgun. AOE applies dots and expose, gains TM and health when anyone dies. I use him when I’m using Vader. Zeta doubles his tiny health pool with some other benefits.7. Dooku. Dooku is solid, he can stun, shock, and ability block. Pretty much always counters, under a nihilus lead he’s crazy! No zeta needed.8. Sith assasin. She’s cool, her basic ignores protection. Pair her with savage and you’ve got a instakill team. She’s soft but keep her stealthed and you’re fine.9. Sith trooper. Solid tank, he’s got a passive taunt, ignores protection on hits. Special ability grants protection for each rebuffed enemy.

I think most of us loves either sith or jedi... Dont know why all they give us to play arena and raids are rebels and resistance xDYes, u can use sith in raids with good results, after a lot of effort gearing/modding the correct toons... But u just have to run a single CLS to solo rancor anyway instead of a whole Zader team... U can also do awesome damage with diferent DS setups in HAAT, but u need like 10 developed characters to do so, while with CLS/Han u can clear P1 in 15 min, then retreat CLS and jut solo 50%P2, P3 and P4 with resistanceU not only need less developed characters, also u use for this raids toons who also rules in arena... So its a win win T_TI would love to be able to play arena with sith/empire (even jedi) with same succes than rebels/resistance!!!

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GulSkiVader
7 years ago
There are not many Sith with uniques so typically you zeta a leader. Then that zeta is lost in a Sith team if that character is not the leader, i.e., choose between zMaul or zVader. This is definitely a downer as they can be great pieces. The more successful Sith share labels with Empire, I believe. And one of the most powerful Sith doesn't have a zeta, what??? (EP)

Otherwise for arena, they can be useful in a hybrid team, i.e., different factions (empire, etc.). My arena is team is that (zVader (lead...yeah who does that? lol), zCLS, zR2, Thrawn, Tarkin). I used to have EP in there but notice it's Rebel/Empire. I would like more love for the Sith and if EP gets a zeta...

They do make a big impact in many areas of the game:
Fleet (great ships) - TFP, DV, Maul, FOTP (capital) -Chimaera, Executrix
Rancor (zVader teams)
HAAT p3
TB/TW
as I mention above, blend for arena

Sadly they are not doing well as all Sith in arena.
Player_7ctrhms9
7 years ago
All really interesting posts, thanks to all for contributing. The answers were as I was expecting...but not wnhat I wanted.

I guess I was deciding whether to go for an Imperial Trooper or Sith team next. I think it's been answered for me. Which is a shame...
GulSkiVader
7 years ago
@Huatimus , yes thanks for correction. All the more that SITH need help.
YKMisfit
New Spectator
7 years ago
I started a second account a couple weeks ago, and decided early (or rather, had it decided for me when I got Nihilus in a chromium) that I would focus mainly on sith.

I'm not very far along though. I only have Dooku, DN and Sidious, but I'm one shard from Vader and I've been buying Maul shards whenever they show up in the guild store.

My hope is that there's a push on sith in events this month as it's rumoured, and that they become a more competitive faction because I'd really like my new account to actually be viable once I get it up and running.
Dark_Helmet152
7 years ago
EP has a solid kit but is made of glass. In addition to low prot/hp his armor is the lowest in the game. Any rework has to address that.
Player_7ctrhms9
7 years ago
"CampCosmos;c-1444751" wrote:
For what purpose?

Just for kicks really, while I wait around to get CLS.

Thanks to you all for you great contributions.
blackbeardpepe
7 years ago
Dooku should've won. :p
EventineElesedi
7 years ago
It's funny, Savage was the first character I farmed out of Arena store ... turns out he was just not worth it at the time. But when the Sith era rose, I was preoccupied with other projects and never did get back to them. These days I am finally starting to gear up the Sith a bit.

I use them in GW with Nihilus lead typically. Running SiTrooper, Sass, Savage, Maul/Dooku, just to get to know them. They are between g7-9. I am enjoying using them and it is clear that Trooper needs more gear to protect his friends all the way through the table.

Still hate Dancing Dooku though and have not been able to stomach more levels or gear on him yet.

I use my other Sith (Palpenstein, Vader) on zVader team in DSTB and TW. Sidious is floating around in limbo looking for a place to fit.
RacerDejak
7 years ago
"Blackbeardpepe;c-1445023" wrote:
Dooku should've won. :p

He's the most annoying char :unamused:
sainte5
7 years ago
@Ben774 You need to flip that list. Sith Assassin and Sith Trooper are probably the most invaluable Sith in the game.

@CoastalJames I still run zNihilus lead in arena (link in sig). I can beat any team on offense, especially teams that waste spots on GK, Zarriss, or Rex (which many still do). The problem isn't offense, it's defense. I drop 60-80 spots each day, even in the 100s.

CLS killed Sith in the meta since they only have one taunt with Sith Trooper, which is only worse with JTR now. If they release a second Sith taunter, they might be viable again. I'm currently gearing GK to replace Dooku, but at that point it's not really a Sith team... ;)