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padawan_boss's avatar
9 years ago

STH when shocked: Bug or WAI?

My EP shocks opposing team STH. AI then uses STH's taunt. The taunt does not work because of the shock. If I then damage STH, it appears that everyone else on his team still gets TM boost. After reading STH's ability description, I would have said its WAI, but in practice, if STH taunts and you dispell that taunt, the TM boost stops being given to his team. Seems like there is a bug in one of those examples or the other.
  • scuba75's avatar
    scuba75
    Seasoned Rookie
    "Waqui;677725" wrote:
    It has been discussed before in an old thread. There is a difference between a buff and a positive status effect. The taunt is a buff (which is also a positive status effect). The TM granted to allies is a positive status effect but not a buff. Shock prevents gaining buffs but doesn't prevent gaining all positive status effects, hence it prevents gaining taunts but not the TM granting effect. QGJ dispels all positive status effects — both taunt and the TM granting effect.

    Long story short:
    It all works according to the descriptions of the abilities. You just need to read it carefully. They use different words for different abilities and effects for a reason.


    I know of this is an older post but I was directed to your comment and will disagree here

    TM give when damaged can only be dispelled if he is taunting.

    If taunt is blocked by shock or buff immunity the TM give part cannot be dispelled. I have tried.

    If it worked as you described it, than you should be able to block taunt and than separately dispel the TM give effect when he is damaged and currently you cannot do that.
  • Interesting, @scuba If it is doing as you describe, then there is a bug somewhere. But I think the bug lies with the situation you described, because the descriptions used by Devs as laid out by Waqui make perfect sense. Seems that the TM gain should be able to be dispelled by an attack that removes all positive status effects, like QGJ's Hunbling Blow.
  • scuba75's avatar
    scuba75
    Seasoned Rookie
    "Jedi2407;720126" wrote:
    Interesting, scuba If it is doing as you describe, then there is a bug somewhere. But I think the bug lies with the situation you described, because the descriptions used by Devs as laid out by Waqui make perfect sense. Seems that the TM gain should be able to be dispelled by an attack that removes all positive status effects, like QGJ's Hunbling Blow.


    That is why i give no matter how you look at the ability wording

    TM give tied to taunt or they are 2 separate things it is bugged.

    As mentioned previously it has been flagged by dev's for investigation, and IMO dev's have it flagged correctly:

    Abilities - Stormtrooper Han's Draw Fire Ability behaves differently when Shocked compared to being Dispelled


  • "scuba;719653" wrote:

    TM give when damaged can only be dispelled if he is taunting.

    If taunt is blocked by shock or buff immunity the TM give part cannot be dispelled. I have tried.

    If it worked as you described it, than you should be able to block taunt and than separately dispel the TM give effect when he is damaged and currently you cannot do that.


    Really? Now THAT's interesting. I still belive, that the rest is working as described by the abilities' descriptions, but if the TM gain cannot be dispelled without the taunt present, then I assume it's a bug. Looking forward to testing it myself :—)

  • Out of curiosity: Is there a list available of things that are flagged for investigation?

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