Takin Lead vs Thrawn for pure Empire Team?

"Snowlock2017;c-1435119" wrote:

"JediMeatbag;c-1435000" wrote:

As someone who has an empire team and hunts for CLS teams with it, I find the idea of replacing Thrawn with Tarkin laughable (no offense).

But did you say yourself you can't even crack the top 75? Maybe if you could get into top 5 or top 10? Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying. If so, apologies.

It's not about where I rank. I loathe Arena for one, and my payout time is at the worst possible time for me. If I wanted to/had the time to try hard near paytime, I'd probably top out around 50 with this team, which is pretty nice given its gearing (3 G11, 2 G10). I am not a whale, I'm FTP. There are some ridiculous whales (Krakens) on my shard. Everyone ranked 1-50 is G12 maxed, either JTR, or Nightsisters, there's a couple maxed KRU and FOE and one guy running Empire with maxed Wampa and IPD! Not a single CLS lead still in my shard's top 50.

The original poster specifically asked about Empire teams with Thrawn or Tarkin as lead, and specifically in relation to fighting CLS. My empire team is 83k GP, yet I regularly seek out and defeat CLS teams that are significantly more powerful (105+ GP). I prefer fighting 100k+ CLS teams to 90k Sith teams (the other prevalent team in my shard bracket). Despite being G10/11 with 'really good but not insane' mods, it can defeat fully maxed CLS teams. It would not do that with Tarkin lead. Also, being the only team in its shard area without a 'gold' G12 circle makes them a big target on defense, yet they often hold decently.

As the post above your reply stated, this same team makeup is 5 on his shard. Stronger team?
Weaker shard? Who knows; doesn't matter. Point of my post was to address the original posters' specific inquiry and dissect why it crushes CLS with Thrawn lead and why Tarkins lead is not superior to Thrawn in that scenario.

@JediMeatbag - Great explanation thank you

Thanks all for very constructive discussion - I am an Empire player at heart after all :)

The AI can't use Thrawn's "Maneuver" ability well on defense. I prefer his leadership skill for offense, but if this is your arena team, you'll likely place higher with Tarkin.

Thrawn is better in Arena, Tarkin is better in TB

"Moroveus;c-1436511" wrote:
The AI can't use Thrawn's "Maneuver" ability well on defense. I prefer his leadership skill for offense, but if this is your arena team, you'll likely place higher with Tarkin.

Thanks! I was thinking that b/c that speed boost (whilst only a flat skill) means you go first against all but Han Solo teams which means you can really set the pace of the encounter from there on in. Thrawn seems great for longer arena matches tho where his lead and protection bonus seems to shine.

"CountPookoo;c-1437032" wrote:

"Moroveus;c-1436511" wrote:
The AI can't use Thrawn's "Maneuver" ability well on defense. I prefer his leadership skill for offense, but if this is your arena team, you'll likely place higher with Tarkin.

Thanks! I was thinking that b/c that speed boost (whilst only a flat skill) means you go first against all but Han Solo teams which means you can really set the pace of the encounter from there on in. Thrawn seems great for longer arena matches tho where his lead and protection bonus seems to shine.

You wont place higher with Tarkin in arena. Thrawn is better leader and going first is not important for Empire. No matter what You wont go first against Rey teams and against CLS teams Tarkin lead is not so good. If Tarkin would be good than Krenic would be great against CLS but he is not. Just play Tarkin as a leader and You will see.