The Galactic Rebel Players Discussion

Here's that Jyn led team vs. an Old Ben led rebel squad (With Luke).

I think I caught him while he was experimenting with new teams... sorry @ElixirU :)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ehfVyVqgIk4

@Smapty runned lots of tests about old Ben and i think devs kind of nerf his leadership. On first battles probably got good rng, but later had some that not even once anyone dodge. Understandable, dodge meta would be annoying again.

Besides, against Rex lead is too much gamble, if after mind tricks u don't ability block him, just gave tons of TM to every enemy.

Raid Han seems very interesting, mine is g10, thinking if worth all that carbattis to push to g11. His stun shot at start might disrupt enemy strategy. On the other hand, i saw Fulcrum Ahsoka kill him at once easily with her special.

What about a team that was Ackbar led, ATF, Old Ben, Ezra, and Leia? Could this be a good team?

@Counts Ackbar is old meta, his kit is good, but can't be compared to all offensive power or buffs/debuffs other leaders on arena give. ATF is awesome, Ezra have his spot. Leia relly a lot on rng, tried her again and on many fights he attacked only once.

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By the way, I think the jewel under Luke lead is OG Han Solo. After rework he hits like a truck! And he's gonna get 85% counter-attack, that's very decent. His first shot can disrupt enemy strategy. Make him around 60% crit chance and after his special, he will get enough TM to go right again.

With good mods he will crit for 20k on special and 15k basic, thinking of the "TM combo" as said, it's around 35k, insane! I pushed him to g11 and gave a zeta too, no regreats at all!

I'm going to be testing these things out myself in GW (tomorrow, sadly, because I finished GW this morning), but in case someone knows, I have a couple of questions about first moves for characters on defense. Obviously this is assuming they aren't ability blocked.

1) Jyn - Does she use Rebel Counterattack first? If so, what's the criteria for who gets the 100% TM? Person with the least current TM or totally random?

2) Old Ben - Does he use Taunt right off or Mind Tricks?

3) R2 - First ability used? And who does he choose for Smoke Screen? I'm thinking it's anybody taunting, but what if there isn't a current taunter?

4) Kanan - First move? And will he taunt (Intervene) if nobody currently has a debuff on them?

5) SRP - Basic or taunt?

6) STH - Taunt first or nah?

Finally ...

7) Raid Han - who does he choose for his stun? Totally random or is there some algorithm at play, such as 'always target characters x, y, or z if they are present, otherwise just roll the dice', or is it always just totally random?

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Basically I'm trying to theorycraft a good opening that doesn't rely on Baze to be pre-taunting. My sincere hope is that Jyn leads with RC and gives it to the slowest person on the team, who would be the tank. The tank then immediately taunts, simulating a Baze (as long as Jyn can be made the fastest person on the team, obviously).

Of course, that might be an all around bad idea, because against a Rex team she'd be feeding them a bunch of TM at the start with at least a few crits from that aoe. And then it becomes a crapshoot about who goes first - your tank with the 100% or the other team who probably have all 5 characters at 100%. Hmmmmmmm, probably not a good idea.

*sigh*

Still, the questions stand. I'm going to try this out tomorrow (oh what I wouldn't give for a sandbox mode!).

Answers:

1) Jyn - Does she use Rebel Counterattack first:
YES.. She gives the TM to the current lowest Health protection

2) Old Ben - Does he use Taunt right off or Mind Tricks?
Mind Tricks
3) R2 - First ability used? And who does he choose for Smoke Screen? I'm thinking it's anybody taunting, but what if there isn't a current taunter?
Smoke Screen first and he give it to the one with the current highest Health + protection (taunting tank or no taunting tank)

4) Kanan - First move?
No idea

5) SRP - Basic or taunt?:
Taunt
6) STH - Taunt first or nah?
Taunt

7) OG Han:
Completly random

Interesting. So technically a possible starting turn could be:

1) R2
*Smokescreen on high hp/prot tank
2) Leia
*Stealth + 100% + basic pew pew
3) Jyn
*Rebel Counter and feed 100% to Leia
4) Leia
*More pew pew with advantage

If you can get those three characters in that order (and still, somehow, be faster than the other team), that would be a good opening barrage

"TheMegaSage;c-1220208" wrote:

7) Raid Han - who does he choose for his stun? Totally random or is there some algorithm at play, such as 'always target characters x, y, or z if they are present, otherwise just roll the dice', or is it always just totally random?

I'm pretty sure the AI randomly selects, but that the random selection is weighted by tag. From what I've seen going against him, it's almost always a support character that gets hit. Of course, this could just be confirmation bias at work.

My feedback: I'm sick of rebels :p

"Indominable_J;c-1220274" wrote:

"TheMegaSage;c-1220208" wrote:

7) Raid Han - who does he choose for his stun? Totally random or is there some algorithm at play, such as 'always target characters x, y, or z if they are present, otherwise just roll the dice', or is it always just totally random?

I'm pretty sure the AI randomly selects, but that the random selection is weighted by tag. From what I've seen going against him, it's almost always a support character that gets hit. Of course, this could just be confirmation bias at work.

yeah I think he has some more / less likely logic in there - I have faced off vs. Han quite a bit last few days with Thrawn lead, Shore, Storm, DN, and DT - 80%+ of the time he's avoided the two tanks. He's only attacked Shore and Storm once a piece. He seems to love DT / DN in particular.