Tm gain

"Iolaus;c-1166910" wrote:

"Billcarson66;c-1166901" wrote:
I would think 1.2 also, but the math...1.2 x 194=232.8 My SA is 235 and his 194 EP went before her.

no if dooku speed is 209, with the 20% bonus he will have 250.8
so it is above your 235 :D

250 actually, assuming we're using 20%

"TofuMao;c-1166913" wrote:
You don't multiply really, the truth is that they only have to fill 80% of their turn meter so whatever speed they have you have to divide by 0.8 , that's the amount of TM Barr they have to fill, wich is the same as multiplying by 1.25.
That's the beauty of maths ^_^

yeah it makes sense ^^

209 + (209x0.2) = 209 + 41.8 = 250.8

You could also do 209 x 1.2 directly.

Therefore 209 speed is like 261

Ahh, the OP isn't using Zaul. Then yes, he should def be faster. Even his EP has like 242 effective starting speed.

"TofuMao;c-1166913" wrote:
You don't multiply really, the truth is that they only have to fill 80% of their turn meter so whatever speed they have you have to divide by 0.8 , that's the amount of TM Barr they have to fill, wich is the same as multiplying by 1.25.
That's the beauty of maths ^_^

This makes no sense, by doing so you calculate how much more "speed" they need in order to fill their TM fully. Not how much speed, considered the TM they'll get with Zaul's 20%, they have at the start of the encounter.

"Crazylazyguy;c-1166921" wrote:
209 + (209x0.2) = 209 + 41.8 = 250.8

You could also do 209 x 1.2 directly.

No, get a calculator and do it yourself. You are getting the point wrong, it's not adding 20% speed it's taking of a 0,2 of the TM bar, then, they only have to fill 0.8 of their TM wich is in a way faster. 209x0,8=261,5 geez this people that can't add up and even have the guts to post before checking what's right or wrong.

By what you say, the OP's opposite palpa would have an effective speed of 194x1,2=232,8 so his SA at 235 would go before, but no, as palpa only has to fill 0,8 of he TM bar is 194/0,8=242,5 wich is the real speed he gets for the first turn.

It's not x 1.2, it's ÷ 0.8, which is the same as x1.25

"Crazylazyguy;c-1166921" wrote:
209 + (209x0.2) = 209 + 41.8 = 250.8

You could also do 209 x 1.2 directly.

Sorry mate but you're completely wrong here and shouldn't be posting incorrect information. I'm not going to get into the Maths of it. The simple way to figure it out is speed x 1.25 (NOT 1.2).

"TofuMao;c-1166934" wrote:

"Crazylazyguy;c-1166921" wrote:
209 + (209x0.2) = 209 + 41.8 = 250.8

You could also do 209 x 1.2 directly.

No, get a calculator and do it yourself. You are getting the point wrong, it's not adding 20% speed it's taking of a 0,2 of the TM bar, then, they only have to fill 0.8 of their TM wich is in a way faster. 209x0,8=261,5 geez this people that can't add up and even have the guts to post before checking what's right or wrong.

By what you say, the OP's opposite palpa would have an effective speed of 194x1,2=232,8 so his SA at 235 would go before, but no, as palpa only has to fill 0,8 of he TM bar is 194/0,8=242,5 wich is the real speed he gets for the first turn.

Read the post above you, you're not calculating at what speed they'll start, you are calculating how much more speed they'll need in order to fill the TM. Why? What you want to figure out is how much speed YOU need to go before them. So you calculate it by doing 209 x 1.2 which gives you 250.8 speed. This is the speed at which Dooku will begin his turn and in order to beat him you'll need 252 speed.


Also you can't talk about someone not being able to sum up, and in the same moment saying that 209x0,8 = 261.5...... 209 x 0,8 = 167. And then you need to add 167 to 209 which gives you 376 speed. Are you trying to tell me that his Dooku is going to have 376 speed at the start of the encounter??

376 speed is how much more he needs on top of the 250.8 to go first. Even if you did it correctly(which is 209 x 0,25 by your logic) and got 261,5, this is still the wrong answer. Zaul doesn't give 0,25 which 25% bonus TM. He gives 20%.