\"Merailla;c-2172335\" wrote:

\"Treeburner;c-2172181\" wrote:

\"Merailla;c-2172165\" wrote:

\"Treeburner;c-2172150\" wrote:
@Merailla if you want to stop this from happening then place Daka in the second slot . That way she will gain TM after loosing 30% to GG if he kills a NS with his AOE

I know this..but this is just sad, that such an important thing is dependant on team placement..before the TM change, you wanted zombie on 2nd for that tenacity down, now you have to sacrifice it..

It never happened to me before the TM change (or I did not notice it),but my first 2 fights vs GG after the change were complete disaster so I changed the placement..

If you feel like having zombie place tenacity down is more important that's on you , but nothing has changed in regards to the team , it's working the same as before .
daka would always loose TM if placed in the last slot .
Before the changed if daka was in the last slot she would finish the situation with 70% TM after the TM change she finishes with 70% TM .

So to sum up nothing has changed in regards to TM ............ next please

You're funny

\"Treeburner;c-2172361\" wrote:

\"Merailla;c-2172335\" wrote:

\"Treeburner;c-2172181\" wrote:

\"Merailla;c-2172165\" wrote:

\"Treeburner;c-2172150\" wrote:
@Merailla if you want to stop this from happening then place Daka in the second slot . That way she will gain TM after loosing 30% to GG if he kills a NS with his AOE

I know this..but this is just sad, that such an important thing is dependant on team placement..before the TM change, you wanted zombie on 2nd for that tenacity down, now you have to sacrifice it..

It never happened to me before the TM change (or I did not notice it),but my first 2 fights vs GG after the change were complete disaster so I changed the placement..

If you feel like having zombie place tenacity down is more important that's on you , but nothing has changed in regards to the team , it's working the same as before .
daka would always loose TM if placed in the last slot .
Before the changed if daka was in the last slot she would finish the situation with 70% TM after the TM change she finishes with 70% TM .

So to sum up nothing has changed in regards to TM ............ next please

You're funny

It's hard work being informative and funny I'm glad it's paying off, thanks .

\"Rebmes;c-2172596\" wrote:
Yes, some match-ups have changed due to this TM Overflow thing.

Yes, in some situations it can be totally unfair compared to how it was before.

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\"TargetEadu;c-2166617\" wrote:
If you knock someone other than Anakin below 50% health or kill them on a Padme team, Anakin gets a bonus turn, even during Vader’s Merciless Massacre.

Before Overflow, it was a coin flip as to whether Anakin or Vader went next. With the TM overflow changes, since Vader usually has 0-20% TM before MM gives him a bonus turn, Anakin will generally have enough TM Overflow to use his bonus turn before Vader. Then his zeta grants Padme a bonus turn, with her own overflow often letting her take that turn before Vader. Then Vader, if still alive, should resume his Massacre chain until Anakin’s bonus turn is triggered again.

WAI. I know there’s that bit in Merciless Massacre’s description about Vader’s bonus turns not triggering other bonus turns/TM gain, but it seems like that’s relating to Vader actually GAINING the bonus turn, not the ability he uses with it. You can find other examples (ie Malak getting a Jaws of Life bonus turn mid-Massacre) of this behavior. That might be a bug, or might not, but if it is it’s a problem with Vader and not with TM Overflow.

In the meantime, just kill Anakin first.

As for NS, I’m not sure what would affect them here. I would think the overflow would help them more, as Daka’s 50% TM on an ally’s death will let her revive them sooner.

\"DarkHelmet1138;c-2172663\" wrote:

\"TargetEadu;c-2166617\" wrote:
If you knock someone other than Anakin below 50% health or kill them on a Padme team, Anakin gets a bonus turn, even during Vader’s Merciless Massacre.

Before Overflow, it was a coin flip as to whether Anakin or Vader went next. With the TM overflow changes, since Vader usually has 0-20% TM before MM gives him a bonus turn, Anakin will generally have enough TM Overflow to use his bonus turn before Vader. Then his zeta grants Padme a bonus turn, with her own overflow often letting her take that turn before Vader. Then Vader, if still alive, should resume his Massacre chain until Anakin’s bonus turn is triggered again.

WAI. I know there’s that bit in Merciless Massacre’s description about Vader’s bonus turns not triggering other bonus turns/TM gain, but it seems like that’s relating to Vader actually GAINING the bonus turn, not the ability he uses with it. You can find other examples (ie Malak getting a Jaws of Life bonus turn mid-Massacre) of this behavior. That might be a bug, or might not, but if it is it’s a problem with Vader and not with TM Overflow.

In the meantime, just kill Anakin first.

As for NS, I’m not sure what would affect them here. I would think the overflow would help them more, as Daka’s 50% TM on an ally’s death will let her revive them sooner.

I find the easiest way is to just use ep lead and leave wat out if against a padme team. That makes vader not knock anyone too low on his basic. Then you can build enough debuffs to be sure to kill anakin with the saber throw.