2 Questions is all. Can we see which abilities have been zeta'd without having to look them up or guess? Like if you see 2 zetas on Vader, which ones? Also, how come I can see players at #1 or #2 in Arena through their profiles, but when I go to Squad Arena (Ranks), some other name(s) occupy the top spots? Take Ahnaldt101 for example. His profile says #2 Arena... I go to Squad Arena, I don't see him in the top 50??

"MasterJediBrian;c-1922691" wrote:How do we find what "shard" we are? It doesn't say in Squad Arena. And I'm in with ppl who began when I did? Top ppl in my Squad Arena (I've only been playing for 9 mos) are already fully loaded with zeta'd Darth Revan & Darth Malak teams-- making them as competitive as anyone in any Squad. EA classification based on start time does nothing to spare us from Merciless Whales. This is intentional of course...(they should still reveal the zetas somehow as many toons have 3)You're with 20,000 people that started at roughly the same time as you. When one shard fills up with 20,000 people a new one opens. It used to take a day or two to fill a shard. Now it takes a week or two I think. Maybe a month.

"MasterJediBrian;c-1922691" wrote:How do we find what "shard" we are? It doesn't say in Squad Arena. And I'm in with ppl who began when I did? Top ppl in my Squad Arena (I've only been playing for 9 mos) are already fully loaded with zeta'd Darth Revan & Darth Malak teams-- making them as competitive as anyone in any Squad. EA classification based on start time does nothing to spare us from Merciless Whales. This is intentional of course...(they should still reveal the zetas somehow as many toons have 3)Would you rather be in the same arena as me, a day 1 player? If they did one thing right, it's this. Everyone starts on a level field the day they start.

"MasterJediBrian;c-1922705" wrote:"Jarvind;c-1922700" wrote:Your shardmates didn't necessarily start at the exact same time you did. A shard contains 20k people, I think? And a new shard just opens when the last one fills up. So if you're the 19,999th person to join, the first person will of course be way ahead of you.Also, since the game is fairly "mature" at this point, any newer shards are going to be disproportionately populated with alternate accounts and people who started over - in both cases, they'll already know the exact optimal farming path to keep them at the top of the arena right off the bat. So you'll need to read up and follow their example if you want to compete.I'm on a pretty old shard (2015? whatever the first year was) and it's a double edged sword - the people at the top have absolutely insane mods and are close to untouchable, but it's also very easy to stay in the top 100 because most of the shard is inactive.Can we just ask shards to have players at near same GP? Or for Squad Arena have shards for players with top 5 toons nearly equivalent (like a 70k NS might = 80k Phoenix)... But of course they haven't done this-- so as to intentionally encourage us to go Whaling?...?You can ask for whatever you want. They already answered this:WhatIth: Will either arena ever be reworked? Not sure what the question is asking. If the question is will the actual structure of Arena or Fleet Arena be changed (rank swap, payout times, shard sizes, etc) the answer is no.https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/199997/developers-q-a-faq/p1

"MasterJediBrian;c-1922722" wrote:"jhbuchholz;c-1922711" wrote:"MasterJediBrian;c-1922705" wrote:"Jarvind;c-1922700" wrote:Your shardmates didn't necessarily start at the exact same time you did. A shard contains 20k people, I think? And a new shard just opens when the last one fills up. So if you're the 19,999th person to join, the first person will of course be way ahead of you.Also, since the game is fairly "mature" at this point, any newer shards are going to be disproportionately populated with alternate accounts and people who started over - in both cases, they'll already know the exact optimal farming path to keep them at the top of the arena right off the bat. So you'll need to read up and follow their example if you want to compete.I'm on a pretty old shard (2015? whatever the first year was) and it's a double edged sword - the people at the top have absolutely insane mods and are close to untouchable, but it's also very easy to stay in the top 100 because most of the shard is inactive.Can we just ask shards to have players at near same GP? Or for Squad Arena have shards for players with top 5 toons nearly equivalent (like a 70k NS might = 80k Phoenix)... But of course they haven't done this-- so as to intentionally encourage us to go Whaling?...?You can ask for whatever you want. They already answered this:WhatIth: Will either arena ever be reworked? Not sure what the question is asking. If the question is will the actual structure of Arena or Fleet Arena be changed (rank swap, payout times, shard sizes, etc) the answer is no.https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/199997/developers-q-a-faq/p1Many a judges have changed their answers over time. Sometimes you just have to keep asking. And some people can't accept that the thing they're asking for is delusional and annoy everybody by refusing to stop asking.Arena is not going to be reworked so that you don't have to face people who spend more than you. Never.

"MasterJediBrian;c-1922705" wrote:"Jarvind;c-1922700" wrote:Your shardmates didn't necessarily start at the exact same time you did. A shard contains 20k people, I think? And a new shard just opens when the last one fills up. So if you're the 19,999th person to join, the first person will of course be way ahead of you.Also, since the game is fairly "mature" at this point, any newer shards are going to be disproportionately populated with alternate accounts and people who started over - in both cases, they'll already know the exact optimal farming path to keep them at the top of the arena right off the bat. So you'll need to read up and follow their example if you want to compete.I'm on a pretty old shard (2015? whatever the first year was) and it's a double edged sword - the people at the top have absolutely insane mods and are close to untouchable, but it's also very easy to stay in the top 100 because most of the shard is inactive.Can we just ask shards to have players at near same GP? Or for Squad Arena have shards for players with top 5 toons nearly equivalent (like a 70k NS might = 80k Phoenix)... But of course they haven't done this-- so as to intentionally encourage us to go Whaling?...?Why would they change this? That's how they make money. The goal of the game is to make money.

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homerjsolo
6 years ago
"MasterJediBrian;c-1922691" wrote:
How do we find what "shard" we are? It doesn't say in Squad Arena. And I'm in with ppl who began when I did? Top ppl in my Squad Arena (I've only been playing for 9 mos) are already fully loaded with zeta'd Darth Revan & Darth Malak teams-- making them as competitive as anyone in any Squad. EA classification based on start time does nothing to spare us from Merciless Whales. This is intentional of course...(they should still reveal the zetas somehow as many toons have 3)

You're with 20,000 people that started at roughly the same time as you. When one shard fills up with 20,000 people a new one opens. It used to take a day or two to fill a shard. Now it takes a week or two I think. Maybe a month.
N0oTry
6 years ago
"MasterJediBrian;c-1922691" wrote:
How do we find what "shard" we are? It doesn't say in Squad Arena. And I'm in with ppl who began when I did? Top ppl in my Squad Arena (I've only been playing for 9 mos) are already fully loaded with zeta'd Darth Revan & Darth Malak teams-- making them as competitive as anyone in any Squad. EA classification based on start time does nothing to spare us from Merciless Whales. This is intentional of course...(they should still reveal the zetas somehow as many toons have 3)

Would you rather be in the same arena as me, a day 1 player? If they did one thing right, it's this. Everyone starts on a level field the day they start.
homerjsolo
6 years ago
"MasterJediBrian;c-1922705" wrote:
"Jarvind;c-1922700" wrote:
Your shardmates didn't necessarily start at the exact same time you did. A shard contains 20k people, I think? And a new shard just opens when the last one fills up. So if you're the 19,999th person to join, the first person will of course be way ahead of you.

Also, since the game is fairly "mature" at this point, any newer shards are going to be disproportionately populated with alternate accounts and people who started over - in both cases, they'll already know the exact optimal farming path to keep them at the top of the arena right off the bat. So you'll need to read up and follow their example if you want to compete.

I'm on a pretty old shard (2015? whatever the first year was) and it's a double edged sword - the people at the top have absolutely insane mods and are close to untouchable, but it's also very easy to stay in the top 100 because most of the shard is inactive.

Can we just ask shards to have players at near same GP? Or for Squad Arena have shards for players with top 5 toons nearly equivalent (like a 70k NS might = 80k Phoenix)... But of course they haven't done this-- so as to intentionally encourage us to go Whaling?...?

You can ask for whatever you want. They already answered this:

WhatIth: Will either arena ever be reworked?
Not sure what the question is asking. If the question is will the actual structure of Arena or Fleet Arena be changed (rank swap, payout times, shard sizes, etc) the answer is no.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/199997/developers-q-a-faq/p1
LiathSW
6 years ago
"MasterJediBrian;c-1922722" wrote:
"jhbuchholz;c-1922711" wrote:
"MasterJediBrian;c-1922705" wrote:
"Jarvind;c-1922700" wrote:
Your shardmates didn't necessarily start at the exact same time you did. A shard contains 20k people, I think? And a new shard just opens when the last one fills up. So if you're the 19,999th person to join, the first person will of course be way ahead of you.

Also, since the game is fairly "mature" at this point, any newer shards are going to be disproportionately populated with alternate accounts and people who started over - in both cases, they'll already know the exact optimal farming path to keep them at the top of the arena right off the bat. So you'll need to read up and follow their example if you want to compete.

I'm on a pretty old shard (2015? whatever the first year was) and it's a double edged sword - the people at the top have absolutely insane mods and are close to untouchable, but it's also very easy to stay in the top 100 because most of the shard is inactive.

Can we just ask shards to have players at near same GP? Or for Squad Arena have shards for players with top 5 toons nearly equivalent (like a 70k NS might = 80k Phoenix)... But of course they haven't done this-- so as to intentionally encourage us to go Whaling?...?

You can ask for whatever you want. They already answered this:

WhatIth: Will either arena ever be reworked?
Not sure what the question is asking. If the question is will the actual structure of Arena or Fleet Arena be changed (rank swap, payout times, shard sizes, etc) the answer is no.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/199997/developers-q-a-faq/p1

Many a judges have changed their answers over time. Sometimes you just have to keep asking.

And some people can't accept that the thing they're asking for is delusional and annoy everybody by refusing to stop asking.

Arena is not going to be reworked so that you don't have to face people who spend more than you. Never.
Vaderizer
Seasoned Newcomer
6 years ago
"MasterJediBrian;c-1922705" wrote:
"Jarvind;c-1922700" wrote:
Your shardmates didn't necessarily start at the exact same time you did. A shard contains 20k people, I think? And a new shard just opens when the last one fills up. So if you're the 19,999th person to join, the first person will of course be way ahead of you.

Also, since the game is fairly "mature" at this point, any newer shards are going to be disproportionately populated with alternate accounts and people who started over - in both cases, they'll already know the exact optimal farming path to keep them at the top of the arena right off the bat. So you'll need to read up and follow their example if you want to compete.

I'm on a pretty old shard (2015? whatever the first year was) and it's a double edged sword - the people at the top have absolutely insane mods and are close to untouchable, but it's also very easy to stay in the top 100 because most of the shard is inactive.

Can we just ask shards to have players at near same GP? Or for Squad Arena have shards for players with top 5 toons nearly equivalent (like a 70k NS might = 80k Phoenix)... But of course they haven't done this-- so as to intentionally encourage us to go Whaling?...?

Why would they change this? That's how they make money. The goal of the game is to make money.
N0oTry
6 years ago
"MasterJediBrian;c-1922793" wrote:
"Jarvind;c-1922777" wrote:
"MasterJediBrian;c-1922705" wrote:
"Jarvind;c-1922700" wrote:
Your shardmates didn't necessarily start at the exact same time you did. A shard contains 20k people, I think? And a new shard just opens when the last one fills up. So if you're the 19,999th person to join, the first person will of course be way ahead of you.

Also, since the game is fairly "mature" at this point, any newer shards are going to be disproportionately populated with alternate accounts and people who started over - in both cases, they'll already know the exact optimal farming path to keep them at the top of the arena right off the bat. So you'll need to read up and follow their example if you want to compete.

I'm on a pretty old shard (2015? whatever the first year was) and it's a double edged sword - the people at the top have absolutely insane mods and are close to untouchable, but it's also very easy to stay in the top 100 because most of the shard is inactive.

Can we just ask shards to have players at near same GP? Or for Squad Arena have shards for players with top 5 toons nearly equivalent (like a 70k NS might = 80k Phoenix)... But of course they haven't done this-- so as to intentionally encourage us to go Whaling?...?

Why would they change this? That's how they make money. The goal of the game is to make money.

If that's the goal of a "FreeToPlay" game, there's your problem.

That's one of the most hilarious things I've read on the forum. This topic cashes out xD
LiathSW
6 years ago
"MasterJediBrian;c-1922877" wrote:
Ok Ok. First of all, what's PO? Second, slow down, your English is getting choppier than the waves in that Keanu Reeves/Patrick Swayze movie ("Point Break"). Sorry, but no one should believe that a F2P player is going to be able to keep pace with ppl who are growing their squads at 50X the rate by spending BIG CASH. All the people doing videos admit that keeping up with the Meta(s) takes $$$. Sure, eventually (after more than a yr, less if you forsake all else) you can get a decent squad, but if you're saying you can keep up with the ever changing Metas as a F2P, including gearing up/maxing out shards and including the necessary mods, I'm sorry but nobody in their right mind is going to believe that. And I say that even if you're a 95 yr old sitting down in a quiet retirement home seeing this on your phone.

PO is payout. As in the time at which you get your rewards.

And everything else in this post is wrong.
N0oTry
6 years ago
"MasterJediBrian;c-1922877" wrote:
Ok Ok. First of all, what's PO? Second, slow down, your English is getting choppier than the waves in that Keanu Reeves/Patrick Swayze movie ("Point Break"). Sorry, but no one should believe that a F2P player is going to be able to keep pace with ppl who are growing their squads at 50X the rate by spending BIG CASH. All the people doing videos admit that keeping up with the Meta(s) takes $$$. Sure, eventually (after more than a yr, less if you forsake all else) you can get a decent squad, but if you're saying you can keep up with the ever changing Metas as a F2P, including gearing up/maxing out shards and including the necessary mods, I'm sorry but nobody in their right mind is going to believe that. And I say that even if you're a 95 yr old sitting down in a quiet retirement home seeing this on your phone.

Your english is getting cussier right from the moment you noticed you are on the losing end of the equation. I knew you wouldn't believe me while writing it down. Yet everyone in the shard chats, officered a guild talking to their members and have been in numerous discord/line chats can also testify to it. Another thing that you'll think I'm lying to your face, go to my profile and check the guild, see individual arena monthly graphics and the overall guild average. This is a competetive f2p only guild. We 100 (2 joint guilds) must be both lying to ourselves (I might not have noticed the bills I pay monthly since I'm schizophrenic) and to eachother that we are f2p.
DarthNathReyn
6 years ago
Darth Vader has only two zetas. For lots of characters if they have a zeta it's usually the unique or leadership abilities.
As for the squad arena; Everyone is broken up into their own shards. A group of people that started around your time. That way not everyone is pitted against 5 million gp accounts when they unlock arena
MasterJediBrian
6 years ago
How do we find what "shard" we are? It doesn't say in Squad Arena. And I'm in with ppl who began when I did? Top ppl in my Squad Arena (I've only been playing for 9 mos) are already fully loaded with zeta'd Darth Revan & Darth Malak teams-- making them as competitive as anyone in any Squad. EA classification based on start time does nothing to spare us from Merciless Whales. This is intentional of course...(they should still reveal the zetas somehow as many toons have 3)