Creating dorms TS2U

"EgonVM;c-16485114" wrote:

"BMSO;c-16484908" wrote:

"EgonVM;c-16484712" wrote:

"Maniac4u;c-16484166" wrote:

"Rflong7;c-16484002" wrote:
Did you start the lot as a Residential or Community? It looked like there's a Community phone in the front and I don't think the game will change it to the mailbox. You have to start it as a Residential if you want mail/bills and being able to live there.

Maybe you started the other one as a Residential and this one as a Community and that's why there's no Live mode? I don't know... I'm testing it. :)

Yep- start it as a Residential. :)

YEEESSS!!!! It worked! I rebuilt the same thing on a residential lot. Thank goodness I posted the pics and you caught the community phone! Thank you tons!

Aha! So the issue was caused by missing mailbox and trashcan.
But glad this issue is solved. I'll remember to ask that first. Here's a reminder for the future:
Which lot type should you start with when building a special lot:
Dorm-Residental
Secret Society-Residental
Hotel-Community
Secret Vacation Lot (Bigfoot)-Start with residental, change to community for payphone.
Secret Vacation Lot (Other)-Community
ApartmentBase-Residental

Other types that help cheat code gives are not recommended (by me). But yeah, enjoy your new custom-built dorm!

Actually the issue was because she had set it as a community lot when she had built it rather than a residential and using the lotzoning cheat. If you make your own apartments,hotels or dorms it's always best to start them as a residential lot but always use boolprop testingcheatsenabled true or (on) before you enter the lot and build. After your done don't save and exit the lot yet as your going to need to change the zoning type before you save and exit.

Also keeping a copy of that lot in the bin is helpful for the future.

I always built hotels on community lots and they worked. Hotels don't need mailboxes and residental trash cans. I have built many hotels before.
Only residental lots generate mailbox and trash can. In community lots, the payphone and community trash can can be bought from the build mode and are required for community lot to work (I have changed a residental to community before). Missing mailbox and trashcan is a problem that is caused by starting from the community lot. The reason is that when you move sims in, they start out next to the mailbox. As there is no mailbox, it causes the problem where the game doesn't know where to put the new sims, making the live mode inaccessible. In the other words, mailboxes are the "heart" of residental lots as residental lots, dorms and apartments require it to have the lot function properly (Yes, it has bills, but in The Sims 1, the missing mailbox can block NPCs from visiting and make the lot fail to load). While yes, your wording is correct, I still agree with my wording.
That cheat doesn't actually require testingcheats at all. There are only few cheats that require that cheat. Only thing when the cheat makes a difference is when I delete the hotel door (causes the error message to pop up). Changing the neighborhood type does require that cheat...
I'm sorry we get into arguments. I really don't want to get into arguments. I sometimes test things out to satisfy my curiosity and word my discoveries and ideas my own way. If your suggested things work, then that's OK.

Oh no it wasn't argumentative, just something I've always done plus I sort of miss read what you were saying, that's my fault.

"BMSO;c-16485153" wrote:

"EgonVM;c-16485114" wrote:

"BMSO;c-16484908" wrote:

"EgonVM;c-16484712" wrote:

"Maniac4u;c-16484166" wrote:

"Rflong7;c-16484002" wrote:
Did you start the lot as a Residential or Community? It looked like there's a Community phone in the front and I don't think the game will change it to the mailbox. You have to start it as a Residential if you want mail/bills and being able to live there.

Maybe you started the other one as a Residential and this one as a Community and that's why there's no Live mode? I don't know... I'm testing it. :)

Yep- start it as a Residential. :)

YEEESSS!!!! It worked! I rebuilt the same thing on a residential lot. Thank goodness I posted the pics and you caught the community phone! Thank you tons!

Aha! So the issue was caused by missing mailbox and trashcan.
But glad this issue is solved. I'll remember to ask that first. Here's a reminder for the future:
Which lot type should you start with when building a special lot:
Dorm-Residental
Secret Society-Residental
Hotel-Community
Secret Vacation Lot (Bigfoot)-Start with residental, change to community for payphone.
Secret Vacation Lot (Other)-Community
ApartmentBase-Residental

Other types that help cheat code gives are not recommended (by me). But yeah, enjoy your new custom-built dorm!

Actually the issue was because she had set it as a community lot when she had built it rather than a residential and using the lotzoning cheat. If you make your own apartments,hotels or dorms it's always best to start them as a residential lot but always use boolprop testingcheatsenabled true or (on) before you enter the lot and build. After your done don't save and exit the lot yet as your going to need to change the zoning type before you save and exit.

Also keeping a copy of that lot in the bin is helpful for the future.

I always built hotels on community lots and they worked. Hotels don't need mailboxes and residental trash cans. I have built many hotels before.
Only residental lots generate mailbox and trash can. In community lots, the payphone and community trash can can be bought from the build mode and are required for community lot to work (I have changed a residental to community before). Missing mailbox and trashcan is a problem that is caused by starting from the community lot. The reason is that when you move sims in, they start out next to the mailbox. As there is no mailbox, it causes the problem where the game doesn't know where to put the new sims, making the live mode inaccessible. In the other words, mailboxes are the "heart" of residental lots as residental lots, dorms and apartments require it to have the lot function properly (Yes, it has bills, but in The Sims 1, the missing mailbox can block NPCs from visiting and make the lot fail to load). While yes, your wording is correct, I still agree with my wording.
That cheat doesn't actually require testingcheats at all. There are only few cheats that require that cheat. Only thing when the cheat makes a difference is when I delete the hotel door (causes the error message to pop up). Changing the neighborhood type does require that cheat...
I'm sorry we get into arguments. I really don't want to get into arguments. I sometimes test things out to satisfy my curiosity and word my discoveries and ideas my own way. If your suggested things work, then that's OK.

Oh no it wasn't argumentative, just something I've always done plus I sort of miss read what you were saying, that's my fault.

Oh well, even I have misread somethings...
But like I said, it's Ok to suggest helpful things. I felt the need to explain further about the mailbox thing and correct some facts. It's stressful times for me for right now, so I can be little rough right now. I'm sorry about this, you don't need to blame yourself.
Let's put that meltdown aside and go on with a day. This is the forums where everyone should feel happy in, not feel bad. :)

Do you guys know what's the deal with students not being able to click on the mailbox to pay bills when the mail person delivers it? Not complaining lol they have saved a ton of money (not by switching to geico though, had to do it lol) but it's just odd. It never happened before and this started in a premade dorm with no cheats on.

Honestly I'm not sure, it could be due to the lot's function though you would think that they should be able to pay their dorm fees? Though since it's in a regular neighbor hood it could also be recognizing it as a community lot rather than residential?

Also caught the Geico joke. :lol:

"BMSO;c-16485646" wrote:
I think I may have found a fix that may help your situation @Maniac4u It's a mod but it fixes the dorm billing. Dorm Billing fix See if this helps.

It only fixes the issue if your dorm doesn't have any dorm doors. It doesn't fix the issue of the mailman not dropping bills off period.

Dorm bill pay is total rent / dorm doors x number of playable Sims.

The game throws an error due to dividing by 0 if your dorm doesn't have any dorm doors.

"Seera1024;c-16482812" wrote:
Was the new college Sims from the same main neighborhood?

Nope. I went to Veronaville and started playing with the Capps and Monty. Why would that matter though?

@Maniac4u with sims 2 builds you create on lots in the different neighborhoods and sub-hoods, like your dorm for the university, don't transfer when you start in a new main neighborhood. So whenever you load into a main neighborhood you never played your basically starting over. If you wanted to place the dorm you built into the university hood there is a way. You would need to go back to the neighborhood you created the dorm in and move the lot to the bin, if i am remembering correctly. I can go in sims 2 tomorrow and double check and if i am wrong can give proper instructions to help as it is 12am here and I should really be in bed lol.

oh and the changelotzoning cheat can be tricky did you make sure that you had entered boolprop testingcheatsenabled true from the neighborhood screen, this is how you enable cheats for sims 2, once it's enabled go onto your lot and enter the changelotzoning cheat than leave the lot and it should work, again this is if I am remembering correctly. i'll double check this for you too tomorrow.

Did you include the special dorm doors? You know, these where sim's picture goes to.
That is strange. My custom-built dorms usually work.
Do you play The Sims 2 through the discs or through Origin with Ultimate Collection?

"Maniac4u;c-16482846" wrote:

"Seera1024;c-16482812" wrote:
Was the new college Sims from the same main neighborhood?

Nope. I went to Veronaville and started playing with the Capps and Monty. Why would that matter though?

That changes everything: Each main-neighborhood has different sub-neighborhoods. Doing changes (like playing with sims, building etc) in one main-neighborhood's sub-neighborhood doesn't mean that all the main-neighborhoods' sub-neighborhoods will have the change. If you move the sim from one main-neighborhood to other (that can be done by moving a house with residents to the lot bin), you will corrupt both of the neighborhoods. The neighborhood corruption is explained in this forum post. My point is that having all the main-neighborhoods share the sub-neighborhoods would cause problems after problems.
You can put the lot in the lot bin when it's not occupied and put it in that neighborhood.

"EgonVM;c-16483227" wrote:
Did you include the special dorm doors? You know, these where sim's picture goes to.
That is strange. My custom-built dorms usually work.
Do you play The Sims 2 through the discs or through Origin with Ultimate Collection?

"Maniac4u;c-16482846" wrote:

"Seera1024;c-16482812" wrote:
Was the new college Sims from the same main neighborhood?

Nope. I went to Veronaville and started playing with the Capps and Monty. Why would that matter though?

That changes everything: Each main-neighborhood has different sub-neighborhoods. Doing changes (like playing with sims, building etc) in one main-neighborhood's sub-neighborhood doesn't mean that all the main-neighborhoods' sub-neighborhoods will have the change. If you move the sim from one main-neighborhood to other (that can be done by moving a house with residents to the lot bin), you will corrupt both of the neighborhoods. The neighborhood corruption is explained in this forum post. My point is that having all the main-neighborhoods share the sub-neighborhoods would cause problems after problems.
You can put the lot in the lot bin when it's not occupied and put it in that neighborhood.

I built a new dorm in a different university ( le academie le tour) for the sims from veronaville unlike my 1st build it was in siesta tech with sims from belladonna cove. I tried adding the dorm to the bin but in sims 2 you can't do that or least for me it didn't have the option, only to save the file. When I used the code to zone the lot, there's a sun that shows up when you highlight the dorm but upon moving my sims in, there's no gameplay option, only the build and buy. I'm using the physical disc.

"EgonVM;c-16483227" wrote:
Did you include the special dorm doors? You know, these where sim's picture goes to.
That is strange. My custom-built dorms usually work.
Do you play The Sims 2 through the discs or through Origin with Ultimate Collection?

"Maniac4u;c-16482846" wrote:

"Seera1024;c-16482812" wrote:
Was the new college Sims from the same main neighborhood?

Nope. I went to Veronaville and started playing with the Capps and Monty. Why would that matter though?

That changes everything: Each main-neighborhood has different sub-neighborhoods. Doing changes (like playing with sims, building etc) in one main-neighborhood's sub-neighborhood doesn't mean that all the main-neighborhoods' sub-neighborhoods will have the change. If you move the sim from one main-neighborhood to other (that can be done by moving a house with residents to the lot bin), you will corrupt both of the neighborhoods. The neighborhood corruption is explained in this forum post. My point is that having all the main-neighborhoods share the sub-neighborhoods would cause problems after problems.
You can put the lot in the lot bin when it's not occupied and put it in that neighborhood.

Oh and yes I added the dorm doors. The whole thing worked the very 1st time when I built a dorm in siesta tech. It's strange how this one doesn't.