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EmeraldEyles
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago

All elders have fear of death

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.93.146.1020
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? Cottage Living, Seasons, Cats and Dogs, Get To Work, Get Together, City Living, Snowy Escape, Island Living, Get Famous, Realm of Magic, Vampires, Werewolves, Spa Day, Dream Home Decorator, Outdoor Retreat, Paranormal, Moschino, Spooky, Decor to the Max.
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Play the game and check any houses with elders present & see what fears they have. Elders that have just aged up won't necessarily have the trait, it seems to take 1-2 sim days for the trait to appear, but eventually any Sims that ages up into an elder will have the trait. I first noticed it when I had one of my Sim families run a retail business, and kept wondering why elder sims would come into the store and do nothing but run around and scream incoherently in terror.
What happens when the bug occurs? All elders in the game will eventually have the fear of death trait/fear, and start to run almost constantly run around and screaming incoherently in terror, regardless of the company their in or the situation.
What do you expect to see? Considering the Sims' apparent commitment to diversity, and respect, I don't expect to see rampant ageism in my game - and having every single elder sim in the game running around screaming incoherently in fear, because 'Death' is not amusing or cute, it's blatantly ageist.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Yes
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. Wants and Fears update.

Game has  been tested with and without mods, plus after game repairs and factory reset. I've also run several test games with and without mods after game repairs and the issue has persisted. I have reinstalled my mods folder seeing as the issue does not seem to resolve regardless of mods or no mods. 

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  • daikoyu's avatar
    daikoyu
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    The main problem here is that NPC can development fears. Each time a Sim spawn it can happen that they get fears, specially If this NPC an elder (fear of death) or spawn at night (fear of dark). If you have aging off, it is to 100% that all your elder will end with fear of death. Player which plays with aging on or NS on + deaths on will not notice this problem because these NPC will early or later be dead.

    This is to 100% a vanilla issue and one reason for me that fears are bad. Give NPC the possibly that they can get rid of her fears of her own or blacklist NPC that they can development any fears if we don’t play them.  I don’t think this is funny, specially not if you play with aging off and all elders end with this!

  • EmeraldEyles's avatar
    EmeraldEyles
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    I play with ageing on and normal lifespan for NPC's. It hasn't made a difference. It is frustrating, because it just seems so heavy handed in the way these fears manifest. I cannot wait for them to update with a fix for this, so I can turn wants and fears off entirely. 

  • daikoyu's avatar
    daikoyu
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    A solution for now it would just to use a mod which remove specifics fears – ModTheSims -> Sims get no Fears -> Tyr_noParticularFear <- there you could just use Tyr_noFearDeath.package

    I had rather the option to disable only fears, I like the new wants, if they work (and I don’t get only music wants) + I love the little moodlet which sims get if they fulfill the wants.

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    EmeraldEyles
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    Thank you. I will try that mod out. I just wish I didn't have to mod my game for things like this. It's lucky I got a new computer that can handle all the extra mods I've needed lately. Thanks again.