Product: The Sims 4Platform:PCWhich language are you playing the game in? EnglishHow often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)What is your current game version number? 1.110.311.1020 DX9What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All of them.Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Cheat the Grimborn trait unto any sim. I used Nyon Specter as my test subject.What happens when the bug occurs? The sims' entire body gets skinnier. Removing the trait doesn't reset the sim and adding the trait again makes the sim even skinnier than the last time and so on. Attached are before and after pictures for reference as well as a third picture for repeated add/remove of the trait to show the progression.What do you expect to see? For the body to not change.Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? YesPlease describe the patch or change you made. Installed Life and Death.Before the trait is added:After the trait is added:Showing what happens after repeated attempts:

I had this exact same situation when I added the grimborn trait to Nyon Specter.I haven't tried with any other sims, but it's tied to the way the trait applies a grimborn trait buff on the sim, which adds a CAS part and updates the genetics of the sim. I assume that the CAS part added is the grimborn scythe birthmark on the neck, and that the intention is to add the birthmark to the sim and update the genetics so that it's permanently a part of the sim.I assume that this is only meant to happen once, but the way it's implemented, I suspect that the buff applies the birthmark and updates the sim's genetics every time the sim is loaded/travels. I managed to add the trait and then have Nyon travel a couple of times to other lots, and every time they loaded in there was a small genetic warping that reduced his chin and narrowed the area around the pelvis. After a few times, he had no jaw or chin any more.I managed to stop this happening by modding the buff tuning so that when it applies the CAS part, it does not do any genetic update. When I tried with that mod applied, then I noticed that Nyon was fine after travelling now and his body did not distort.So that's why I think this bug is related to the grimborn trait buff and the way it applies the CAS part. I don't think that's probably the solution for EA though. I'd probably like to test it more or try alternative methods, such as seeing if I can get the buff to only apply the birthmark once ever, and if the game sees that there's already one on the sim then it ignores making any genetic changes. That's what I think is supposed to happen.I'm not really sure why applying a neck birthmark multiple times would warp the jaw and pelvic area though. Maybe it's down to how they made the birthmark and on the sim they originally made it for, they had no chin and a thin pelvis, and somehow that genetic info is in that CAS part, which in that case the easy fix would be to update that CAS part so it doesn't change those body areas? I have no idea, because I'm not a CAS part creator or how that works.

Hi @crinrict thanks for checking in. I went ahead and had a baby with grim as normal, and aged up the baby with birthday cakes until teen. As in in the other bug reports, the face is indeed scrunched while the body also looks skinnier than I would expect. I used Audrey Bloom (werewolves gallery sim) as the mom. And as @simvasion mentioned, I traveled across a few lots and indeed, the test sim got thinner each time. Screenshots below.After age up:After traveling to three different lots:

Omg this is the exactly what is happening, I didn’t even think it was because of him being grim born! THANK YOU

@crinrict wrote:Can you reproduce this with a regular non-cheated sim too ?Exactly how would you go about seeing if this trait distorts a body if you can't add it and take it away at will? My copy of Nyon didn't have Grimborn and so I gave it to him with CheatUI and every time he is loaded (as in, save/load, trravel, enter/exit CAS), he gets worse. His limbs and hips are so thin that grabbing them in a cas.fulleditmode tug flashes them red and makes them go to a more realistic size, suggesting that they're being pushed beyond the slider limit. Of course, he gets scrunched back up again after leaving CAS, so it's kinda like a love-letter from the game going, "Thanks for trying, but he's going to permenantly be a disgusting mutant."Before you ask, no, I will not play without mods, unless you're willing to post footage of undergoing elective dental surgery with no anasthetic because that's what you're asking us to do every time you suggest. You have enough evidence in the rest of this post that this is some straight-up developer-end garbage that's causing slider value tweaks on load. Modders wouldn't selectively single out one sim to do this as a side-effect, it's too much work. This is an EA mistake.

Grimborn trait should apply to Nyon as of yesterday, but does Grimborn trait still disfigure teens+ on travel? Def say that's a prying issue.

[LD] Grimborn trait distorts body of sims

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crinrict
Hero+
5 months ago
@AbreuRosario So far only the faces have been reported

Would be interesting if this also happens to other folks or if it's maybe a problem off cheating the trait.

Can you reproduce this with a regular non-cheated sim too ?
simvasion
Hero
5 months ago
I had this exact same situation when I added the grimborn trait to Nyon Specter.
I haven't tried with any other sims, but it's tied to the way the trait applies a grimborn trait buff on the sim, which adds a CAS part and updates the genetics of the sim. I assume that the CAS part added is the grimborn scythe birthmark on the neck, and that the intention is to add the birthmark to the sim and update the genetics so that it's permanently a part of the sim.
I assume that this is only meant to happen once, but the way it's implemented, I suspect that the buff applies the birthmark and updates the sim's genetics every time the sim is loaded/travels. I managed to add the trait and then have Nyon travel a couple of times to other lots, and every time they loaded in there was a small genetic warping that reduced his chin and narrowed the area around the pelvis. After a few times, he had no jaw or chin any more.
I managed to stop this happening by modding the buff tuning so that when it applies the CAS part, it does not do any genetic update. When I tried with that mod applied, then I noticed that Nyon was fine after travelling now and his body did not distort.
So that's why I think this bug is related to the grimborn trait buff and the way it applies the CAS part. I don't think that's probably the solution for EA though. I'd probably like to test it more or try alternative methods, such as seeing if I can get the buff to only apply the birthmark once ever, and if the game sees that there's already one on the sim then it ignores making any genetic changes. That's what I think is supposed to happen.
I'm not really sure why applying a neck birthmark multiple times would warp the jaw and pelvic area though. Maybe it's down to how they made the birthmark and on the sim they originally made it for, they had no chin and a thin pelvis, and somehow that genetic info is in that CAS part, which in that case the easy fix would be to update that CAS part so it doesn't change those body areas? I have no idea, because I'm not a CAS part creator or how that works.
AbreuRosario
Seasoned Traveler
5 months ago
Hi @crinrict thanks for checking in. I went ahead and had a baby with grim as normal, and aged up the baby with birthday cakes until teen. As in in the other bug reports, the face is indeed scrunched while the body also looks skinnier than I would expect. I used Audrey Bloom (werewolves gallery sim) as the mom. And as @simvasion mentioned, I traveled across a few lots and indeed, the test sim got thinner each time. Screenshots below.
After age up:
After traveling to three different lots:
LexieLeeRei
5 months ago
Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? SP45 1.Assets.beta-sp45.26
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All of them, besides a few kits
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Have a child, age them up to a teen, edit their body/face, go into another lot and they're completely different people.
What happens when the bug occurs? The sim is completely different from what she/he looked liked before leaving the lot.
What do you expect to see? A completely different sim. same skin tone same eyes same everything literally just his body/face reverting back to normal.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Yes
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. the last update or when the new pack, life and death came out.
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second photo is what i want him to look like.
LexieLeeRei
5 months ago
I MESSED UP MY GAME VERSION, IM SO DUMB.
ITS 1.110.311.1020
crinrict
Hero+
5 months ago
@LexieLeeRei Please move your mods folder to the desktop, delete Documents > Electronic Arts > The Sims 4 > localthumbcache, repair your game and then try again on a backup of your save to see of you can duplicate the issue on a game with no mods.
CGrant56
Hero+
5 months ago
@LexieLeeRei

Does your sim have the Grimborn trait?

There is a thread on it here: [LD] Grimborn trait distorts body of sims - Answer HQ . From your description and pics, it looks like this is what you have going on.

Hope this helps.
caitlynokay
Seasoned Newcomer
5 months ago
@AbreuRosario this happened to me with Nyon so I started a whole new save thinking I had bugged it!! So irritating
marivelloso
5 months ago
I had the exact same issue with Nyon.There's something very wrong with the grimborn trait
LexieLeeRei
5 months ago
Omg this is the exactly what is happening, I didn’t even think it was because of him being grim born! THANK YOU