Product: The Sims 4Platform:PCWhich language are you playing the game in? EnglishHow often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)What is your current game version number? 1.77.131.1030What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All of themSteps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Start playing with Cottage Living installed. I have only played one save so far and have interacted with both Agatha and Agnes. I'm not sure if this is what triggered it. I have also bought things from their store so maybe that triggered it too. I don't know.What happens when the bug occurs? My game has generated multiple versions of Agnes and Agatha Crumplebottom. I can see in manage households that there are now 7 Agnes Crumplebottoms in my game and 7 Agatha Crumplebottoms in my game.What do you expect to see? Only one Agatha Crumplebottom and one Agnes Crumplebottom in the game.Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? YesPlease describe the patch or change you made. Downloaded Cottage Living Nothing further to add. Edit By Crinrict: Added Tag to Title, Adjusted Title

Marked as Solution for Visibility. This is still an open issue. Hello. For anyone still seeing multiple Crumplebottoms being generated (with an empty Mods folder) - would you be willing to share your affected save file(s)? If so, instructions are here: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/INFORMATION-How-to-Send-User-Files-to-The-Sims-4-Team/m-p/6065302

I don’t have any mods and it’s happening to me. When you purchase something, the game creates a new crumplebottom—T

Ok I have figured out what is going on (but not why). Every time my sim purchases something from the garden shop, a new Agatha or Agnes is created by the game to tend the store. I had 7 Agneses in my game, then I sent my sim to buy something from the garden shop (Agnes was tending it) and straight afterwards I checked manage worlds and there are now 8 Agneses in my game.

Bug can be seen happening in James Turner's latest video. I am building the biggest farm! The Sims 4 Cottage Living (Part 13) at 26:45. As far as I know he does not play with mods.

@crinrict just wanted to make you aware that two people have commented here to say that this has happened to them in saves without mods. So, it sounds like it may well not be mod related. It might just be a coincidence that I got this issue on a save which had had MCCC and did not get this problem in a different save which had never had any mods. Maybe it just affects some saves and not others.

[OPEN] [CoL] Multiple versions of Agatha and Agnes Crumplebottom

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JuliaChang93
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
I saw 2 Agnes Crumplebottoms in one of my community lots (hell scenario) the last time I play. I checked the households after reading your bug report and I have the same issue with yours. The household names are irrelevant (Sumner and O'Connor) and only household member is Agnes Crumplebottom.
Amyangelus
Rising Traveler
4 years ago
I don't even see the Crumplebottoms in tending to garden stall in mine
Simalleyaile
Rising Ace
4 years ago
I had the No Random Mod installed, and thought maybe this was the issue. But I removed that, and the same thing happened, game spawns multiple crumplebottoms that show up in the game and in household management.
thisisarealpainx
Rising Hotshot
4 years ago
Ok I have figured out what is going on (but not why). Every time my sim purchases something from the garden shop, a new Agatha or Agnes is created by the game to tend the store. I had 7 Agneses in my game, then I sent my sim to buy something from the garden shop (Agnes was tending it) and straight afterwards I checked manage worlds and there are now 8 Agneses in my game.
crinrict
Hero+
4 years ago
@thisisarealpainx Anyone never had any mods in here ?

If you had any, did you try a factory reset, the a fresh save for testing purpose and it still happens ?

I don't see them in my household manager at all and I believe they are supposed to be hidden households.
83bienchen
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
I strongly believe this is a MCCC issue, not a bug. I know a player who had this issue with other NPCs like gardeners and masterfishermen shortly before the pack has been released and thought it was my townieoverhaul causing it when it acutally was caused by some setting in MCCC. Sadly I don't know which setting in MCCC it is as I don't use mods.
83bienchen
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
I meant to say I don't use MCCC ( I obviously do use other mods though).
thisisarealpainx
Rising Hotshot
4 years ago
I now think that this might be an MCCC issue. After removing MCCC, I do still have multiple Agathas and Agneses in my current save. However, I started a new save without MCCC ever being installed for that save and multiple Agathas and Agneses did not spawn. Started a second new save with MCCC installed and multiple Agathas and Agneses did spawn. So, I would say at this point it is looking like an MCCC issue. Sorry for the confusion.
ETA: Other people are saying that they are having this issue with no mods installed so maybe it's just a coincidence that the problem did not occur for me in a new save which I had never used any mods in. Seems like it may well not be an MCCC issue after all.
to7m
4 years ago
I don’t have any mods and it’s happening to me. When you purchase something, the game creates a new crumplebottom
—T
JuliaChang93
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
I am not using any mods at the moment and I have this issue, too. But I used MCCC a long time ago for the same save file. Do I still need to apply a factory reset and use a fresh new save file -although I do not think they are related :/- ? (This is my 15th generation, so I hope it will be enough to use “save as” for creating a new save file… lol)