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Jayrae316
Seasoned Traveler
8 months ago

Re: [FIXED] Neighbourhood stories not taking family into account

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.108.289.1030
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All of them
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Go into a save file where there are multiple related sims living in different households or create one. Enable neighborhood stories with the friend and romance changes allowed. Wait for a phone call from a sim you are related to.
What happens when the bug occurs? Your sim will get a call from a friend or relation to tell you that the sim calling you is now in a relationship with their sibling or other inappropriate related sim.
What do you expect to see? Sims tagged as siblings not to be able to romance each other or get into romantic relationships.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. The base game update of July 23, 2024

I removed all of my mods and CC after updating because I wanted to play and I don't want to use the mods/CC until they have been updated too. I had been playing for a few minutes when my sim got a text from her cousin saying that the cousin was now in a romantic relationship with her own brother. I went to their household to check and confirmed that they have a romance bar and are tagged as siblings, sweethearts, and partners. The cousin in question and her brother live in the same household. My sim lives in a different household. This happened via Neighborhood Stories, but sims that are related and tagged as such should not be able to romance each other.

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  • SimmerStar4's avatar
    SimmerStar4
    Rising Ace
    8 months ago

    @Jayrae316

    Do you know if this reflected in the family tree/Sim Genealogy tab for the affected Sims, when you went to their household?

    ETA: Also as above! Didn't see that message when I started typing haha.


    Hi! I'm SimmerStar4 (they/them). I'm not an expert on game issues, so don't take me as one! I'm just a Sims player who wants to try and help fellow players, and who finds game bugs and issues interesting.

  • flauschtrud's avatar
    flauschtrud
    Seasoned Ace
    8 months ago
    @Jayrae316 Wow... I looked into the tuning files and was wondering about the lack of conditions, but I only thought about sexual orientation not being taken into account. But this is just next level carelessness.
  • Syxarp's avatar
    Syxarp
    Seasoned Veteran
    8 months ago

    The Sim calling is the son of the Sim he says he’s dating. I use these townies in all my saves. The townie is my rl son’s Simself and the Sim he’s dating is my Simself 😩 this has never happened before. How do I make it stop?

  • flauschtrud's avatar
    flauschtrud
    Seasoned Ace
    8 months ago
    @Syxarp You should be save if you disable the new "Romantic Changes" in Neighborhood Stories. Another feature that just hasn't been tested properly...
  • daikoyu's avatar
    daikoyu
    Seasoned Ace
    8 months ago

    How can you reproduce it? Create 2 adult sims, give them 6 children (young adult), split them in different households. They should still marked as played, and now active NS romance option. Wait until you get the NS notification that they romanced each other. (FreshSims 4 folder/game tested with patch 1.108.318.1020)

    Please fix this. I want to use NS but not if this can happen!

  • Syxarp's avatar
    Syxarp
    Seasoned Veteran
    8 months ago

    I did turn off the relationships on neighborhood stories after this but the whole experience really freaked me out a little. I had to close the game.. I hope developers are aware of this problem and fix it immediately. I play with no mods or cc and when I checked in game the 2 Sims relationship was still listed as mother and son. 

  • Jayrae316's avatar
    Jayrae316
    Seasoned Traveler
    8 months ago

    Patch today (July 26, 2024) claimed that this issue was fixed. Within 3 minutes of playing my game again, got a notification that cousins were now dating each other. Loading into that family shows that they are indeed Cousins, Sweethearts, and Partners. Was the fix only for new files and this just permanently destroyed my legacy?

  • flauschtrud's avatar
    flauschtrud
    Seasoned Ace
    8 months ago

    @Jayrae316Did you get a phone call? The changes from Neighborhood Stories happen at night at 2:30am, so it's possible that it already happened before the patch. The phone call usually happens the next day after a few hours.

    EDIT: If this is the case for you, you could check the versions of your safe file and see if there is one where your game time is still before 2:30am.

  • Jayrae316's avatar
    Jayrae316
    Seasoned Traveler
    8 months ago

    It was a phone call. I guess I'll try playing another 24 hrs and see what happens. 

  • Jayrae316's avatar
    Jayrae316
    Seasoned Traveler
    8 months ago

    This appears to have been the case. There have been no further incestuous relationships in Neighborhood stories. There are still problems with it though. Namely sims that have clear romance/woohoo settings that are being ignored. Sims set to romance with no one and woohoo with no one are entering into romantic partnerships via NS. Sims that are interested in same sex romance and woohoo are getting into romantic partnerships with the opposite sex. While this isn't quite as alarming as the brother sister relations, it still shows that this feature needs more work. Also, while not a problem, I got four notifications at the mailbox in one day that four different sims were in romantic partnerships with the same sim. The next day three more had entered into partnerships with this same sim. I love that poly is now available in the game, but this seems to be a bit overdone. I don't think that this feature was ready to go live and now they need to scramble to fix it. 

  • flauschtrud's avatar
    flauschtrud
    Seasoned Ace
    8 months ago
    @Jayrae316 I reported the issue with the sexual orientation already: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/Romantic-Changes-in-Neighborhood-Stories-ignore-sexual/m-p/13908544#M284981

    And I agree, I don't understand why this "feature" has been shipped. I have it deactivated for now since it doesn't even work for unplayed Sims.

    Were the multiple relationships definitely created in your game or was it just the notification? There's another issue that changes don't have any effect at all, so maybe the game rightfully sees a Sim as single because the previous story didn't have any effect?

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