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Re: [NEEDS SAVES] Autonomously fighting loved ones

I'm tagging @SimGuruNick again, even though I mentioned the things below in my private message before, but I'd like to add something more to my thought after testing, and share with others here.

All right, I think I know what's the deal with that fighting. Maybe I'm not 100% right, but I think I'm on the right track.

The problem are the Character Values, the Conflict Resolution to be exact. During Vampiric Spars and Vampiric Duels, a vampire loses some Conflict Resolution. It happens even for Young Adults or Adult Sims, even for those who was created as such. Both interactions are pretty quick way to gain some vampire points (and be honest, they look pretty awsome). But as the result of that, our vampires' Conflict Resolution decreases a little every time. It's easier with teens in the sense that we can control that on their Simology chart, but we can't with adults.

I've done some testing with a new family where nobody is a vampire. I used cheats to lower Conflict Resolution. At first I gave a father the value of -90 (so he was in the range to get Argumentative Trait). It took some time but he started a fight with his teenage daughter on his own. Then I started over and I gave a mother the value of -75 (so she was low, but not in the range). She started a fight with her husband. I wasn't really controlling them during testing, definitely not when fighting occured. They all had almost max positive relationships, and no negative moodlets. Most of people with this problem have a vampire with hot-headed trait (or insane), but my tested mother was Materialistic, Clumsy and Good. So I believe that since hot-headed trait lowers Conflict Resolution by default, those Sims get to a negative-fighting-level quicker and it's easier to be noticed (I'm not sure about insane, but I assume it's the same).

To sum up, the main problem here is that Sims with low Conflict Resolution don't control their argumentativeness at all. I get that it should be unpredictable, but at the same time I believe they should not fist fight with their loved ones. They could argue, but not fight. Or at least not when they don't even have any negative moodlets. The additional problem is that adult Sims are gaining any Character Values while we can't control that (we can't see it in their Simology). 

I hope my observation will be helpful, and that something can be done with these issues.

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  • comicsforever's avatar
    comicsforever
    7 years ago

    I like Autonomously fighting in my game and I know a lot of people would be upset if it were removed

  • comicsforever's avatar
    comicsforever
    7 years ago

     I haven't  seen autonomously fighting of any kind in months even sparring

    that might be a bug

  • Abradley745's avatar
    Abradley745
    7 years ago
    Suggestive conversation... next thing i know they are fighting. Not vampiric duel, but actual fighting. Teen vampires. Now i cant get the friendship bar to move past friend again without cheating. The hell is that *? How does a suggestive conversation lead to a fight? Fix teenagers random stupid fighting * please. Full friendship and romance bar... now im.stuck trying to fix it. And everytime i click on him the break up option is there. Like wtf stop please. What even caused it in the first place?
  • @Abradley745 Does any of your teenagers have a really low Conflict Resolution (if you have Parenthood pack at all)? If so, try leveling it up, by in-game actions or by cheating.

  • Baylon7373's avatar
    Baylon7373
    6 years ago

    My vampire sim (young adult) gets negative conflict resolution points when I use  vampire sparring!

    Patch v. 1.51.77.1020


    @MadameNightOwl  schrieb:

    I'm tagging @SimGuruNick again, even though I mentioned the things below in my private message before, but I'd like to add something more to my thought after testing, and share with others here.

    All right, I think I know what's the deal with that fighting. Maybe I'm not 100% right, but I think I'm on the right track.

    The problem are the Character Values, the Conflict Resolution to be exact. During Vampiric Spars and Vampiric Duels, a vampire loses some Conflict Resolution. It happens even for Young Adults or Adult Sims, even for those who was created as such. Both interactions are pretty quick way to gain some vampire points (and be honest, they look pretty awsome). But as the result of that, our vampires' Conflict Resolution decreases a little every time. It's easier with teens in the sense that we can control that on their Simology chart, but we can't with adults.

    I've done some testing with a new family where nobody is a vampire. I used cheats to lower Conflict Resolution. At first I gave a father the value of -90 (so he was in the range to get Argumentative Trait). It took some time but he started a fight with his teenage daughter on his own. Then I started over and I gave a mother the value of -75 (so she was low, but not in the range). She started a fight with her husband. I wasn't really controlling them during testing, definitely not when fighting occured. They all had almost max positive relationships, and no negative moodlets. Most of people with this problem have a vampire with hot-headed trait (or insane), but my tested mother was Materialistic, Clumsy and Good. So I believe that since hot-headed trait lowers Conflict Resolution by default, those Sims get to a negative-fighting-level quicker and it's easier to be noticed (I'm not sure about insane, but I assume it's the same).

    To sum up, the main problem here is that Sims with low Conflict Resolution don't control their argumentativeness at all. I get that it should be unpredictable, but at the same time I believe they should not fist fight with their loved ones. They could argue, but not fight. Or at least not when they don't even have any negative moodlets. The additional problem is that adult Sims are gaining any Character Values while we can't control that (we can't see it in their Simology). 

    I hope my observation will be helpful, and that something can be done with these issues.


    I think @MadameNightOwl could be right!

    So I don't want to use this interaction anymore. I don't want my vampire fighting everyone. I've also seen this happen with other character values. I love vampire sparring. Please fix the bugs with all character values because, like @MadameNightOwl said, we can't control it.