Re: [OPEN] Wild Plants not maturing/producing harvestables

Possibly related for all I know. However, that would mean that in order for a sim in Sulani to have access to plants and trees that produce anything they would have to live on Mua Pel'am or a specific neighborhood area where plants and trees are located.

The pre-made Kealoha family lives in that waterfront lot. I've gone to work with him on Mua Pel'am for sim weeks and no plants or trees mature and produce. I've even seen some of them revert to dirt piles after having rotated back to the family after playing a sim family in Mt. Komorebi for a few sim days. The coconut trees have never matured to the point where they even look like more than a small, freshly sprouted bush. As a matter-of-fact, none of the wild plants or trees anywhere in the Sulani world have matured to producing, even though I have tried to spend time in all areas doing something like fishing, nor has the crystal spike rock near the volcano respawned.

My primary intent was to report the problem for Sulani when I posted but I realized after a play session last night that I haven't encountered a single producing wild plant or tree and that rocks don't seem to be respawning once dug in any of the worlds. Since one of the sims I play is a collector and another has the Angling Ace aspiration, I've travelled a lot in all the worlds over multiple sim weeks, trying hard to spend enough time in areas for timers to kick in and work. Alas, no joy.

I did a game repair on 11/14/20 and another on 12/2/20, deleting localthumbcache each time. Neither game repair has alleviated the situation for me.  So, no, wild plants and trees are not producing in either world in which I have sims living, nor in worlds in which I've had them spend time.

@crinrict I didn't expect to hear from you until after the patch drops, lol.  Take that break you need!

Thank you for the links.  I posted in the rock spawning link the same day I posted this report.  I had missed the Sulani report and have gone ahead and clicked me too in that thread today.

I've also edited the title of this report to indicate just wild plants and trees not maturing, period, the end.  After 4 additional days of playing, I can't find a single wild plant or tree that has matured to the point of producing anything in any of the worlds.  None present anywhere.

I couldn't even get harvestables from the community gardens in Willow Creek.  I don't have a sim living in Willow Creek in this save but have sent both my collector and Angling Ace sim there on multiple occasions.  That seems to come back to having to be present at the 5 a.m. theory, which is a source of frustration for me.

ETA: Oops, looks like my attempt to edit out "in Sulani" from the subject line didn't take.  Guess editing that line by the poster isn't an option.

Sorry, Crin, should have mentioned that I would test that 5 a.m. theory at the community garden. I knew you would need that done but should have realized you aren't a mind reader to know I would do it, lol.

The answer is yes, that's at least part of the problem. I say partly because it was a mixed bag of results, at the garden anyway. Sent sim prior to 5 a.m. and the only option on the apple tree was to collect microscope sample. The potato plant showed out of season but the bluebell, snapdragon, 2 chrysanthemum plants and the strawberry plant had no options whatsoever. After 5, the apple tree produced fruit and the snapdragon sprouted but had no options. The bluebell, chrysanthemums and strawberry plants still had no options. The frog log collected from sim weeks ago also didn't respawn. The snapdragon and chrysanthemums are supposed to produce in the fall, which is the current season in this save.

I'm attaching a pic because there was also some strangeness encountered. Mousing over those items showed a pic of her daughter who was at home in the new SE bed first, then the plant info overlay would appear over that pic. Above the daughter's image it said "Single Bed", which I mention because you can't see under the plant info overlay in the pic. Totally bizarre.

@crinrict   To answer your question first, I don't think any plants have just disappeared. I can find plants but will add I've felt like there has seemed to be fewer plants in the worlds for quite some time. I had just figured there was some sort of design change, probably for performance reasons as the game is now so large. That's more of an impression I am left with rather than anything I know to be fact.

I play 14 day seasons so it is taking me some time to get to different areas at the 5 a.m. time frame. I can get most plants to produce at that time but some plants seem, well, broken is the only term that comes to mind. In that community garden besides the plants I already mentioned that didn't produce, in winter the potato plant didn't produce potatoes either. Potatoes also didn't produce in a home garden in winter. That particular plant isn't on a lot that I play in this save but had a sim visit by 5 a.m.

I also haven't had any of the plants in Sylvan Glades produce anything. The bottom line is that I simply don't know how much of what I am experiencing is "design" and how much is "broken". Something sure isn't working correctly for some plants not to produce anything in the proper season, as I am encountering. For example, in that garden behind the BFF household in Willow Creek, the snapdragon never produced a flower in season but the wild snapdragon plant behind the Nishidake household in Mt. Komorebi that I'm playing in this save does produce. I can only presume the snapdragon plant in the WC garden is broken, at least in my game.

This problem is cumbersome to test but it certainly feels like it should be looked at. A player should not have to jump through hoops to get a sim to an area by 5 a.m. to find a harvestable and then encounter some plants not producing at all. My poor sims are all exhausted from having been drug out of bed to be sure they arrive somewhere by 5 a.m. in the hopes they can get that harvestable they want, lol.

@crinrict     I don't envy you trying to figure out what to do with this report. Part of me feels like the Granite Falls, Sulani threads you referenced and this one could all be combined because the issues probably all stem from the 5 am design, at least initially. BUT this is now all worlds for me and it feels like what may have started out as a 5 am issue has now progressed to more than just a time thing, i.e. some wild plants never producing. Something is broken, or not working as it should, imho.

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Often (50% - 99%)
What is your current game version number? 1.70.84.1020
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? Everything except My First Pet Stuff and Paranormal Stuff
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Either plant things or keep an eye on wild plants, wait for 5:00am and be disappointed.
What happens when the bug occurs? Plants don't produce harvestables, no matter the season.
What do you expect to see? Plants producing harvestables at 5:00am sharp.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Neutral/Not Sure 

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Plants (both wild and gardened) don't produce harvestables anymore. None of the debug options have made any difference. It doesn't seem to be related to seasons, as it also affects year-round plants like the ones that grow in Forgotten Hollow. The issue seems to have only started after the pre-Paranormal Stuff Pack update, and is only present in games I've started since then: I have one save I've been working on since December that is not affected by this glitch. In every save I've tried to start since then, however, the problem is seemingly unavoidable. I haven't seen this issue discussed anywhere else, so I'm not sure if it's a known issue or not.

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:Sony Playstation 4
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Rarely (0% - 9%)
What is your current game version number? 1.39.7.4400 (64 bit)
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? Get to work Paranormal Dine out Vampires Cool kitchen stuff Perfect patio stuff
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? I don't know
What happens when the bug occurs? Whenever I travel to look for wild plants they don't always spear, when they do I cannot harvest.
What do you expect to see? I expect to see the fruit/veg/flowers on the wild plants when I find them.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Never used.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. Last sims patch

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• I do not have an issue with the plants on my own lot, wild plants are the problem. They sparkle like when ready to be harvested but no fruit/veg or flowers to be seen on them and cannot be harvested. This occurs in all of the worlds I go to. 

I've never had a problem with this. I've always just looked for the plants and harvested. I've never really had to wait. I've been looking on and off for 4 days now. 

I have my own plants, I bought seeds so no problem with that. Whenever I go to other worlds to harvest, that's the problem. The plants sparkle as they do when ready to be harvested but nothing there and only lets me view them. 5 days now and nothing. I've tried the 5am thing, I was lucky with one plant and not all of them. So def a bug or something. 

@Skullchick90

The "Sparkle" doesn't mean they are ready to be harvested. It means they are ready to be evolved. Which can't be done on "public" plants... (which is a bug, but a completely different bug. The Devs either need to allow played sims to evolve public plants or turn off the "sparkle" if we can't evolve them. Having them constantly sparkle and no way to evolve them is annoying.)

The only sign they are ready to be harvested is if they have any fruits or flowers on it.

If the plants are in a public area, like on the street, you should be able to harvest them after 5am as long as its your own neighborhood.

If it's a neighborhood DIFFERENT from your residential neighborhood, OR the plants are on a public LOT, like a park lot that you have to go through a loading screen to get to... then you will need to spend at LEAST 24 hours on the lot, and if they are grown, they will spawn at 5am.  This is a bug that first appeared after Seasons was released and has been all but forgotten by the Devs.

That bug has carried over to Island Living with the sea shells. If you don't live on Ohan'ali Town, seashells won't spawn there until you spend at least a day or two there contiguously. It's quite annoying.