Re: thermost doesn't seem to be working
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@PenguinFoop wrote:Here's a link from forums.thesims.com https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussions It appears I'm not alone.
Thank you for posting here đ
Hopefully we can help you find a solution.
For clarification I am adding the direct link to your original post:
Thermostat Issues
https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/973460/thermostat-issues/p1@PenguinFoop I saw something like this at the Harbor Quarter Gym in Windenburg after I installed the Seasons pack. Even though I added a thermostat and put the temperature setting to warm, my Sims would change from their Athletic outfits to Cold Weather outfits when walking from the fitness areas on the main and upper floors to the showers in the basement. It had that odd seating area, adjacent to the basement swimming pool, that had an open ceiling to the sidewalk area outside. I closed that ceiling area and now I do not see this problem anymore.
I've seen similar effects like this in a few, but not all, other public venues that were designed prior to the Seasons EP release. Like snow inside nightclubs and karaoke clubs. I've gone back into Build/Buy mode and fixed any design flaws I could find (i.e. missing ceiling sections, false or incomplete rooms, etc.) and this seems to have cleared that problem too. I save these "fixed" versions in My Library so I can use them in new saves.
This might be the easiest fix to try. It does not involve any cheats or mods. If you do not wish to spend that much time in Build/Buy mode, maybe you could check The Gallery for already-fixed versions of any venues you are having problems with.
I hope this helps :D
@RandomBuzziness wrote:@PenguinFoop I saw something like this at the Harbor Quarter Gym in Windenburg after I installed the Seasons pack. Even though I added a thermostat and put the temperature setting to warm, my Sims would change from their Athletic outfits to Cold Weather outfits when walking from the fitness areas on the main and upper floors to the showers in the basement. It had that odd seating area, adjacent to the basement swimming pool, that had an open ceiling to the sidewalk area outside. I closed that ceiling area and now I do not see this problem anymore.
I've seen similar effects like this in a few, but not all, other public venues that were designed prior to the Seasons EP release. Like snow inside nightclubs and karaoke clubs. I've gone back into Build/Buy mode and fixed any design flaws I could find (i.e. missing ceiling sections, false or incomplete rooms, etc.) and this seems to have cleared that problem too. I save these "fixed" versions in My Library so I can use them in new saves.
This might be the easiest fix to try. It does not involve any cheats or mods. If you do not wish to spend that much time in Build/Buy mode, maybe you could check The Gallery for already-fixed versions of any venues you are having problems with.
I hope this helps :D
This is good information but the thing is that these are houses that I've built and I know that each of them have a ceiling (not just a roof) on the upper floors and that only one of them has a roof missing on the downstairs because I wanted to make a balcony that looks down into the main entrance from the second floor. But again, the second floor has a ceiling and roof.
Also, the other multi-floor building does the same although it has ceilings in all rooms on all levels. I've also noticed on that one that the garden plants (located on the fourth level basement I think) start dripping when it's raining outside and the pool which is located on the basement level above the garden still won't let them swim when it's freezing outside. So not sure if these two are different issues or if they're all related to the thermostat. But the thermostat should make the pool swimmable and keep the sims from having to wear their winter clothes inside a closed house.
So I started a new game and built a single story house then made it into a two-story house and I can't duplicate the issue. âšī¸ I even removed the ceiling of the downstairs so that only the roof was protecting from the elements. I then removed a section of the floor but still can't duplicate the issue. âšī¸
@PenguinFoop Well the good news is that your game might not be bugged, it could just be something in those builds that is a little bit off and the game is allowing outside weather to affect the inside. I mean like a quirk in the build system and not a mistake on your part. Which platform are you on? Would you be willing to upload one or both lots into The Gallery in case others might be able to do some testing?
At least one of the buildings I had to fix in San Myshuno was a case where all walls, ceilings, and the roof were intact but the game was not recognizing all of the interior spaces as "rooms". It was like parts of it were a bunch of separate walls but nothing I could select the as an actual room in Build Mode. I mean it looked nice and everything was fine until I downloaded Seasons, and then I started seeing that outside weather effects were getting inside. I re-modeled the walls so that all spaces could be selected as "rooms" in Build Mode and then the thermostats worked fine & no more snow would get inside. Maybe something like that is going on for you? I hope it's something we can figure out because your buildings sound awesome! :D
@RandomBuzziness wrote:@PenguinFoop Well the good news is that your game might not be bugged, it could just be something in those builds that is a little bit off and the game is allowing outside weather to affect the inside. I mean like a quirk in the build system and not a mistake on your part. Which platform are you on? Would you be willing to upload one or both lots into The Gallery in case others might be able to do some testing?
At least one of the buildings I had to fix in San Myshuno was a case where all walls, ceilings, and the roof were intact but the game was not recognizing all of the interior spaces as "rooms". It was like parts of it were a bunch of separate walls but nothing I could select the as an actual room in Build Mode. I mean it looked nice and everything was fine until I downloaded Seasons, and then I started seeing that outside weather effects were getting inside. I re-modeled the walls so that all spaces could be selected as "rooms" in Build Mode and then the thermostats worked fine & no more snow would get inside. Maybe something like that is going on for you? I hope it's something we can figure out because your buildings sound awesome! :D
Thanks. I think they're awesome, but I'm biased. lol Anyway, they're both in the gallery. The one with the indoor balcony is called "The Modern" and the one with the multiple basements is called "Downward Living." I'm sort of wondering if the problem is Windenburg. I'm testing it now in Newcrest to see if it works there.
Okay, I tested the house in every world that I own and it still has the same issue. I checked the house and everything that should have a ceiling and/or floor has one so I don't know what to do. âšī¸
@PenguinFoop I have them both downloaded and I will try to play around with things tomorrow. I don't have one of the packs you used in your builds so I am not sure how well it will work out though.
@PenguinFoop In a test save, I downloaded and placed your lot called "The Modern" in Newcrest and set the season to winter and the season length to 28 days so I would have plenty of days with snow and freezing temperatures. I did have the same problem you reported in your original post where my Sims would change into their Cold Weather outfits when moving around to various rooms (i.e. from an upstairs bedroom to the kitchen on the main floor). I kept the thermostat set to warm and they would get the good moodlets from it, but yeah they still changed into Cold Weather outfits when inside the house.
After trying a few experiments the only thing I have found to correct the problem was to add a ceiling to the patio area on the top floor (the area with the patio furniture and gas grill). This is not an ideal solution and there might be a better way of doing it (I am not an expert builder) but after adding this ceiling section my Sims will no longer switch to Cold Weather outfits while in the house. I tested this for several game-days with snow and freezing temperatures outside and all looked good.
Oh btw that open area on the second floor that overlooks the main floor is fine as it is, that was not causing any problems as far as I could tell.
It really is a great looking house and I enjoyed playing in it while doing these experiments. I can definitely see adding this lot to my regular game-play saves! :D
Thanks for testing it! Unfortunately, that solution looks terrible on this house. âšī¸ Is there a way to make a suggestion to the devs? It seems to me that there may be a simple fix to a whole host of weather related issues. If the user can click a room and designate it as indoor or outdoor that should resolve the problem. It should also resolve the opposite problem which is when the sim goes to an outdoor balcony/patio in his/her underwear and isn't affected by the weather conditions.
And thanks for the compliment on the house. Feel free to give it a â¤ī¸. đ Also, you can submit it to the "most awesome build of all times" list, have it showcased by Maxis and Sims 4 and call me Architect Supremo if you want. đ I kid, I kid! Well maybe I kid. Okay, no, I kid. lol
As for "Downward Living," have you tested that one? I'm pretty sure that everything has a ceiling on it. However, the very bottom basement, where the garden is) had to be set to taller walsl to accommodate the trees so I'm wondering if that may be the issue there. I haven't tested that theory though so was just wondering if you had.
By the way, "Downward Living" is a prime example of why we should have elevators in our build options. lol
@PenguinFoop There is a bug report for the issue with indoor pools.
[OPEN] [S] Indoor pool has greyed out options in freezing weather
@PenguinFoop I have both versions (new and original) of your "The Modern" house downloaded (and Favorited) to My Library. The original version with the open patio area should work well in worlds like Oasis Springs or Sulani where it never freezes (I think?). I have not yet placed the newer version in my game but I will do that sometime soon as I am curious to see how you built the new roof section.
I have not yet tried the "Downward Living" house, I'm thinking that will be next. The only indoor pool I can think of that I ever use is at the gym in Windenburg. I've modified that lot for all of my saves because I do recall it having weather-related design problems but I can't remember if the swimming pool being grayed-out on freezing days was one of them.
Cool. Glad you have it downloaded. I removed the one without the roof from the gallery though. I didn't think about using it in maybe Oasis (that's the only world I have that shouldn't have many, if any freezing days/nights since it's a desert.)
As for "Downward Living," I haven't double-checked the ceiling or anything in that one because I've just been loving "The Modern" so much. lol
@PenguinFoop Here is the roof build I came up with for your "The Modern" house for the outside deck area. I actually finished this roof design a few days ago but I had to wait for winter to end in this save (I use the long 28-day seasons in my game). It was too hard to see any detail when it was covered in snow. My Sim will not change into her Cold Weather outfit in this house even with no thermostat installed at all. I know it's not the solution you are looking for but a roof like this can still look very nice in the game. I changed the curved wall to angular to go better with the octagonal roof section.
Disregard the changes to the fences and yard area, that's just me trying to see if this house would fit on a 30 x 20 lot (it will). Also the windows look different because I don't have some of the packs you used in your Gallery upload. Speaking of the Gallery, I am looking forward to using this version in my regular game saves but of course I will not upload it to the Gallery. This is your build. I decided against trying the "no roof" version in Oasis Springs because of the thunderstorms I often see there on Mystery Weather days.
I did place the "Downward Living" house in this same test save but unfortunately there wasn't anything I was able to find to fix the swimming pool issue. I tested the indoor pool at the gym in Windenburg and the same thing was happening there. It seems like swimming pools only look at outside temperatures even if the pool is indoors. I'm sure you have seen the Bug Report on this by now. It's still good for swimming laps even on freezing days.
Anyhow, good luck I hope this helps :D
