Create-a-Style is really missed

I wonder if people would pay for cast separately? Maybe ea would make it then!

What's with the pathetic carpeting options?? I don't know why this angers me so deeply... Can we just get some darker colored carpeting, please? Pretty please??

"Crackseed;12728774" wrote:
@Mariesalias - A great post explaining things Marie but I do want to correct you on one thing - Kotaku and other sources have cited that the original engine (glassbox) being used for the prior project was NOT used for Sims 4. I'm not sure what this engine is known as internally but they didn't pack Sims 4 into that online-only game shell apparently.

@Crackseed
I agree, it is not Glassbox. I apologize, I have been too lazy with my words. Sims 4 is written in Python which is not used for a full PC game. It was coded to be a mobile/console game and this will limit its ability to do everything a full PC game (like The Sims) should be able to do. As I said, we are starting another Sims game on an engine that will not possibly be able to perform to the degree that fans will expect it to for a Sims PC game.

"marthakix;12729194" wrote:
I wonder if people would pay for cast separately? Maybe ea would make it then!

Don't give them any ideas. LOL!

"Mariesalias;12729734" wrote:

"Mylita;12729395" wrote:

"Crackseed;12728774" wrote:
@Mariesalias - A great post explaining things Marie but I do want to correct you on one thing - Kotaku and other sources have cited that the original engine (glassbox) being used for the prior project was NOT used for Sims 4. I'm not sure what this engine is known as internally but they didn't pack Sims 4 into that online-only game shell apparently.

Yes, I believe this is accurate. They created a new engine and didn't use the old one that was intended for the online game. So, that brings me back to my question: Why would they create a new engine that is so limited (if you believe EA) that it can't do CASt or a color wheel, below ground functions (pools, basements), nor any real terraforming? Really, why would you limit the possibilities this much?

Mylita

Because it was coded to be an online social game so it will have many of the limitations of such a game. That is why we don't have CASt, open world, teens of a different height, pools/basements, and toddlers. They just were not planned for from the beginning. :/

I will say, that they did better then I thought they were going to given the limited time and engine they were to turn it into a PC game. And I really do hope I am wrong about how the game will fare as more EPs, SPs, and DLC (not to mention mods and cc) are added to it. They added content into SIms 3 until they literally could not release anymore EPs without completely breaking the game, I imagine they will do the same with Sims 4 though, so it has some time to go.

I keep thinking I should leave this site and all news of sims for about 2 years and come back and see if it's a good game then. I get all stirred up here because it's so far away from what I expect and what I want. So maybe it will be fixed then, and I don't ruin anyone else's time being sad about it. But I do want ea to know that I'm very disappointed in them. It was expensive for a very buggy empty game!

Maybe in 2 years we have cast and toddlers and then Martha is nice again lol! :wink:

When I found out that TS4 wasn't coming with CAS, I decided I liked it way too much to do without. I remembered the frustration of trying to match furniture with wallpaper in TS2 and figured I'm happy with TS3. I know the sims look better in TS4, and probably have more interesting interactions, but I don't care as much about that stuff. I'd rather create things the way I want it and am still happy with the way the Sims interact in TS3. Besides, I dread spending more money on all the EPs all over again... I did it for TS2 and TS3 and that's enough for me.

Having no colour wheel is one of the main reasons I don't play Sims 4 anymore. Every house looks the same; there are only so many times you can design using the same colours and objects over and over and over and over and over again. I used to love designing lots and I also used to love looking at other players' designs. But no more.... because while houses might have a different appearance from the outside, although they still always have a 'clumpy' appearance, they are all pretty much the same inside. So much grey everywhere! This game has really restricted players' creativity to a huge extent. It's so easy to see how builders who used to offer such excellent, interesting designs are thwarted by the limitations of the game when designing interiors. It's almost painful to watch someone trying to choose from the limited colours now available.

I'm really surprised, bearing in mind how designers have been completely ignored in Sims 4, that more colour content hasn't yet been added to compensate for the huge limitation imposed on Sims players with the lack of CASt or a colour wheel. Incredible really that so many players interest has been ignored. It amazes me that no-one on the Sims team realises (or cares) how important it is to so many creative players.

How hard would it be to implement a colour wheel?

I'm just curious. I don't know why it was left out in the first place. Are there any complications with implementing a colour wheel at such a late stage? What would be the reasons for not doing so? I understand that they would need to match each piece of furniture and clothing to the colour wheel. Is that problematic?

"Mariesalias;12729734" wrote:

"Mylita;12729395" wrote:

"Crackseed;12728774" wrote:
@Mariesalias - A great post explaining things Marie but I do want to correct you on one thing - Kotaku and other sources have cited that the original engine (glassbox) being used for the prior project was NOT used for Sims 4. I'm not sure what this engine is known as internally but they didn't pack Sims 4 into that online-only game shell apparently.

Yes, I believe this is accurate. They created a new engine and didn't use the old one that was intended for the online game. So, that brings me back to my question: Why would they create a new engine that is so limited (if you believe EA) that it can't do CASt or a color wheel, below ground functions (pools, basements), nor any real terraforming? Really, why would you limit the possibilities this much?

Mylita

Because it was coded to be an online social game so it will have many of the limitations of such a game. That is why we don't have CASt, open world, teens of a different height, pools/basements, and toddlers. They just were not planned for from the beginning. :/

I will say, that they did better then I thought they were going to given the limited time and engine they were to turn it into a PC game. And I really do hope I am wrong about how the game will fare as more EPs, SPs, and DLC (not to mention mods and cc) are added to it. They added content into SIms 3 until they literally could not release anymore EPs without completely breaking the game, I imagine they will do the same with Sims 4 though, so it has some time to go.

Thanks for the explanation in your previous post; I agree on everything except for quirkiness being a desired ingredient (I'd love my sims more smooth and natural, but not necessarily quirky and funny). You're underlining the hunch I had (and others), that a lot can be blamed because of it being an online game initially.

"Sucom;14037912" wrote:
Having no colour wheel is one of the main reasons I don't play Sims 4 anymore. Every house looks the same; there are only so many times you can design using the same colours and objects over and over and over and over and over again. I used to love designing lots and I also used to love looking at other players' designs. But no more.... because while houses might have a different appearance from the outside, although they still always have a 'clumpy' appearance, they are all pretty much the same inside. So much grey everywhere! This game has really restricted players' creativity to a huge extent. It's so easy to see how builders who used to offer such excellent, interesting designs are thwarted by the limitations of the game when designing interiors. It's almost painful to watch someone trying to choose from the limited colours now available.

I'm really surprised, bearing in mind how designers have been completely ignored in Sims 4, that more colour content hasn't yet been added to compensate for the huge limitation imposed on Sims players with the lack of CASt or a colour wheel. Incredible really that so many players interest has been ignored. It amazes me that no-one on the Sims team realises (or cares) how important it is to so many creative players.

I've been seriously building in Sims 4 for the first time yesterday evening and it was fun because I chose to make a funny kind of house, with crazy combinations. I can only do that once though, it strikes me most items just have boring, mellow colours. Gone are the days I could give my sims an orange tv set because I decided they had that seventies kind of mind.

Another thing that strikes me - and I think it's absurd in a game where you depend on what the game gives you in that department - is that a lot of furniture and walls etc is impossible to combine, because colours are just off. Or boring and I don't want boring grey/brown combinations. The colour palet is strikingly limited. I have some cc haircuts and clothing and they come with more colours :|