Jealousy, Dramas, and Deaths.

Oh I SO want the sims 2 marriage drama to come back! :) Ahhh the good old days!

@lakme

I do not play 4 much but yesterday I was trying to achieve something in game when my male sim caught his girlfriend flirting with another sim and he went off it for the rest of the sim day and the next morning over it which really surprised me as usually I find emotions swing too wildly from one thing to another but it proves emotions are there but as another player stated they don’t seem balanced enough. How long were you trying to keep him depressed? I wonder if it matters how long they were actually together and the relationship scores they had together? however they don't even get upset much when their family members die around them do they?

@shellbeme

I still play 2 all the time with a ton of mods and CC to modernize sims/the game and despite 3 being my first introduction to the sims games ever I love playing 2 for all the sims animations and memories :)

"To7m;15532524" wrote:
Do this is TS2 and you'll get slapped and divorced and thrown out the house. Literally. Lol

TS4 'cheat' reactions irk me quite a bit. They get moodlets but it's not the same, it's just on the surface. A day later you can be friends again, it's annoying and I hope it gets an overhaul.

--T

The cheating Sim does get (autonomously) slapped once after a ton of unfaithful activities including woohooing. But that only seems to happen if the slapper is actually angry or very angry at that moment.
They both even unlock a new romantic action "Excuse... in bed" after being caught.

@Keyenpeydee Maybe try having the guy directly look at the bed? That always worked for me so far.
And what apparently also works is: Have them both sleep in the same bed, but the girl gets up earlier to flirt with the other guy on the bed's edge. Her official boyfriend will immediately notice that. At least my Sim was that unlucky while autonomously flirting with the best friend of his girlfriend :D

"cameronw209;15532547" wrote:
I loved TS2 reactions. Drama for days. I just didn't like it how Sims would react to a cheating spouse's woohoo if they were nowhere near the Sim doing the cheating.

After reading a little story in another thread, about how the son catching his mother while cheating on the father destroyed their relationship forever, I actually decided that I want TS2. Sims 4 might have better graphics, and some other nicer things than in Sims 2, but the latter still seems to have the better stories.

@SimGuruNinja Can cheating/jealousy reactions be fixed please? This is a big detractor in enjoyment. I love this game but this is my number one gripe. When there is a fire they freak out like they should. Surely there is a way to apply that concept to cheating spouse/partner reactions. Pretty please?!

"cameronw209;15532649" wrote:

"king_of_simcity7;15532582" wrote:
I am going to be completly honest here. The 'dramas' are some of the most exciting parts of The Sims and have been for years. I don't always have Sims who cheat but when I do, the effects last a long time in TS3. I have had Sims get a negative moodlet for just 'witnessing betrayal' let alone being a victim.

I have had a Sim at a party who had a boyfriend or girlfriend cheating upstairs. A Woohoo maybe or even some casual flirting. My Sim goes up and investigates and catches them. To cheat anonymously I will have to send the two cheaters to a completely different lot so they hope they don't get caught.

I mean if you where a cheater wouldn't you do the same? Sims shouldn't be so foolish. If I was at a party and my girlfriend 'disappeared' then I would want to find out where she was and if I caught her in bed with another guy then we'll, my Facebook would be exploding with vents! :open_mouth:

The way I see it is this, if a Sim cheats then I expect dramas. To have one Sim to flirt with another and then have the victim just shrug it off like it is no big deal anyway is not really The Sims to me.

Why are players still having issues with this some two and a half years later? :no_mouth:

:disappointed:

When it works, it works fine and is quite entertaining, especially when the angry or sad emotions pop up. What needs to be improved is a balance of consistency and spontaneity to keep things interesting. The emotional buffs do the spontaneity with all the resulting interactions from them, but are not consistent as they can be repressed by happy buffs. Lingering feelings, like "fury" from TS2, would improve this too.

Oh yes I remember the fury. That would make a good emotion actually as it is a real emotion anyway and who wouldn't be furious about being cheated on?

Sims could be furious by a few things actually. How about being furious about coming home and finding out that your wife spent all the household's funds on new shoes or if there is a Pets EP why not be furious when the dog chews up the sofa?

I do hope they add something like this if being cheated on:
If Married Sim 2 cheated on Sim 1 by woohooing in bed, Married Sim 3 should act autonomously: (Boldeds are very important to have though)

• Get Jealous (Stomping foot Animation)
  
• Cheating Sims cancels Woohoo action
  
• Married Sim 3 fights Sim 1 (that fight animation) and slaps Married Sim 2.
  
• Sim 1 would get out of the house. Maybe go to his home autonomously.
  
• Married Sim 3 will autonomously divorce Married Sim 2.
  
• Angry moodlet should last 2 days.
  

@To7m

I think after what you have outlined/experienced re that mod I might have a go with it if it makes enough of a difference, perhaps this mod stabilizes the swinging emotions so they stay longer in their current mood?

@Skobee

I remember when I first got 2 UC only ever having played the base game once years ago, and then trying to play the whole series at once not to mention wondering what the heck was going on for a long while when sims just went off and reacted to anything and everything around them. It has taken me a while to get used to it all and I still consider myself to be a complete novice but now I love the drama in 2 so yes more of that in 4 would be very welcome :)

@cameronw209

I remember asking my very knowledgeable sims 2 friends a lot of questions about why there appeared to be so many differences between the older and newer series and they actually told me that when 2 first came out there were a lot of complaints because players loved 1 so much but after that issue it was the memory system and other aspects of the 2 game that could become corrupt if the player did not take care however I have been playing a little over a year now and have not experienced corruption yet but do take care of what I am doing in game that is known to cause corruption so that may have helped, to me it looks like future sims series systems have been diluted in various ways in an attempt to exclude game player problems but that appears to have taken away aspects of the gameplay that everyone loved and expected to be in all future Sims series.

I think 3 was great (open world) but after backtracking to play 2 I realised the emotion system in 3 was different to the way 2 had been created, also it did not take me long to realise I was going to need more of a gaming rig to play 3 and not the minimum specs as advertised and if I had known that in the beginning I could have saved myself a lot of heartache down the road-)

to be honest if it wasn't for the great players and tech minds on these forums helping me I might have given up sims games altogether but as Sims games are the only games I play then that wasn't an option either these games are my one addiction :)

I also notice that with 2 there were laptop standalone games made so players who did not have great PC specs could still play while others with better rigs could play the full series instead and I have often thought why could they not have continued with giving players that choice rather than trying to create a one series fits all mentality?

Then comes 4 and although I bought the game and all the packs as they came out (because I knew at some point I would want to play) I played a little each time a new pack came out and went back to playing 2&3 however now vampires are out I jumped into playing again immediately and really feel they did a great job with them and they are really fun to play however that does not take away the happy all the time problem but I think I have accepted lately that there are limits to this game itself and its probably not going to change very much so I try to just enjoy the aspects of the game I like and go back to playing another series when I want a different style of game play. I do not think there could ever be a perfect sims series for everybody but for me the emotional system of 2 with an open world of 3 and the graphics and extra animations from 4 would be as perfect for me I could think of at this time :)

I miss the reactions they got in TS2, maybe they will get that back. You would think that with them pushing the emotions feature so much in TS4 there would be actual emotions over stuff that matters. Like a picture can have more of an effect on their moods than seeing infidelity.

It is rather weird.

Yeah, for a game based on "emotion", how Sims react to jealousy, death, anger, cheating (pretty much any emotion outside of happy) is a bit lackluster IMO. As someone else mentioned, TS2 really did it best with the cheating. They had that fury meter too, so don't even think about trying to have a friendly conversation. They would come to your house, steal the newspaper, kick over the trashcan, literally everyday until the relationship got repaired.

In TS4, I've had a few situations where my Sim reacted over jealousy & slapped them. Always cool to see as it's not consistent. I see this type of reaction more so with Sims I'm not playing. Example, my Sim was on a date. I didn't realize her romantic partner (Alexander Goth) was nearby. Granted, I wasn't playing Alexander Goth, and he just walked over to my Sim and did the classic double smack down.

But I'd love to see an overhaul on these reactions. Hopefully, the dev team is looking into it.

Tbh most of my reactions have been pretty tame; but on the flip side, during one wedding party the groom got flirted with an old gf of his and the bride was PISSED. I think she slapped him or at least yelled at him. But boy she was furioussss.

And on the other flipside, I hate how romantic interest sims getting jealous/sad over relationships they shouldn't be attached too. Like your occasional rompity-romp shouldn't be the equivalent of an established relationship with trust that hurts you deeply. Makes the gf/bf status seem pointless.

I do miss the heavy shock reactions tho. *sigh*