Looking Forward To the End Of TS4

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So I don't quite understand what is wrong with Island Living?

Read all the posts on the forum that complain about it including right in this thread. You can't avoid it, lol!

I see nothing wrong with it and if I wanted Sims 4 to be a rehash of past games I wouldn't have bought it.

That is based on what you think about IL, other people have different ideas and opinions that differs from yours and that is okay.

Ok but you need to realize this isn't Sims 2 or 3 and it doesn't need to measure up to either game.

It DOES have to measure up to Sims 2 and 3 because it's part of the series. They should have made TS4 it's own game. That way it wouldn't have to live up to the previous better iterations.

I agree. It DOES and SHOULD match up with Sims 2 and 3 because it's supposed to be a follow on from those games. Sims 4 is definitely NOT a follow on. Sms 4 changed the criteria right from the outset and right from the outset, in terms of being a follow on, it was lacking. Everyone who has played Sims 2 and 3 already knows that. It's not a belief, it's a fact. EA know it, long time players know it.

Sims 4 is ok as a stand alone game. It's .... ok. But that's it. If I look at it from the perspective of being an extended, better version of Sims 2 or Sims 3, then no, it's not ok. It's lacking.

Its not lacking you just expect the game to be open world no loading screens. You expect everything they put out to be Sims 3 quality and to be honest Sims 3 wasn't that good. I have more fun playing Sims 4 then I did Sims 3. I had more issues and more game breaking immersive issues with Sims 3. It was so much fun to play and when you come back from vacation in that game to have your 4 generation families family tree all messed up beyond fixing. It was so much fun to have to use mods to fix the problems that game had. That game was a big buggy mess. Also when I do go back to Sims 3 there are things in Sims 4 that make Sims 3 boring now. I am a long time simmer of the franchise I started with The Sims.

Ignoring the open world since that isn’t happening, it’s still lacking. Like how many staple base game features are we missing? It’s cool that you settle for less, but I find it ridiculous to discourage other people from expecting and called for more. Sims 4 is NOT high quality, especially the newer things they’re releasing!

I am not settling for less I see the Sims 4 as a platform to be creative and tell stories. When you have possibly experienced my bugs in Sims 3 or traveling bugs I had where 4 generation were ruined by the bugs you would understand my point. These things took me out of the game and they were also beyond being able to fix. 4 generations is a huge deal and if your family tree gets messed up because all you did was send them on vacation and it wasn’t repairable that’s not good. The only thing that has happened and it wasn’t game breaking or immersion breaking in the Sims 4 was a eye color glitch. I love this series I stand by this series but I don’t want rehash of older games in the series even Sims 3. Sims 3 was buggy it was fun when it first came out but I get bored with it now. Sims 4 has unique gameplay in my opinion It has so much to do and I doubt you have even done everything in the game. My game style of playing is telling fun drama related stories and seeing what my sims do in certain situations and that’s how I develop who they are going to be. Sometimes I like to explore my sims having lives with their boyfriends or girlfriends that they grew up with. Other times I like to explore maybe one of my sims doesn’t quite feel like they like the opposite gender so they date their gender or they just want to focus on careers and they don’t want a family of their own. My point is that it’s a creative platform no matter if you think it’s lacking in content it’s a platform to tell stories that you can only imagine and it’s a platform to share experiences or share content you make. That is what the Sims Series is.

Ok cool for you. I view Sims as a game, not a “story telling platform”. Perhaps that’s what I mean when I say this game is lacking, it’s lacking things that make it feel like a game. To each their own, I also had bugs in Sims 3 but never severe enough to make me rage quit the game. If your primary reason for liking Sims 4 over 3 is due to bugs then it doesn’t sound like you’re interested in very many aspects of the games beyond telling imaginative stories.

TS4 is not even a really good "story telling platform" as you can't even edit its worlds for a wider range of stories. It doesn't have a lot of different animations for richer story telling either. The b/b stuff are mostly modern in style too with very little else for stories in other time periods and genres. The story teller has actually very little creative control using TS4 in comparison to TS3 and TS2.

I like the game no one on the forums plays the same as the next person so saying it’s not a good story telling platform is your own opinion The bugs in Sims 3 didn’t revert me to play Sims 4 because I can play Sims 3 I just don’t like it after playing Sims 4. Sims 4 may have problems with keeping me interesting in playing because it doesn’t have enough to do for sims. But it’s interesting and different from Sims 3 and Sims 2 that makes the game fun and fun to tell stories or have drama without causing it yourself. It also runs better. @Cinebar hasn’t Dine Out always been bugged I mean my sims either get their food 8 sim hours later or they order and nothing comes.

No, in my game it worked as I expected it would work. I learned how to make sure my Sims were the first seated so they didn't have to wait until everyone else was served. And I made sure those running the restaurants were trained until a patch wiped them all out one time. I'm talking about new bugs I saw here this past weeks, and it was new other than those problems you mentioned. My point of this thread is I'm ready for TS5 (maybe) if TS4 is going to continue down this path of selling GP content for the price of EPs. When an EP should expand the entire game and you have to admit that no the last few EPs have not expanded the entire game. GPs I understand but not the lack luster, skimmpy content or gameplay of the last 2 EPs, and or their focus limited to an area etc. That is not my idea of an EP. But Maxis will continue that trend as long as those who don't see through it keep buying for higher prices than the GP gameplay it contains.

I agree as the only time I would experience problems is when it was the developers fault as one occasion I remember when the "Ambition" patch was released and it caused so much havoc for me and also IP which was an another bug that was brought on by EA/Maxis. Other than that I may have not seen bugs not saying they were not there as some bugs depend on an routine to be activated and looking at how Sims programs was coded there was an lot of potential problems. Some of the problems can also be attributed to someone trying to get an program to work when it just wouldn't work depending the specs and In my case I was lucky as my systems were all above the recommended specs. Also, even if one had the best they could have it could have been an part or even an driver that was the culprit. The reason so many variables because not all systems are the same and not equal as their are many configurations that PC consist of and how that user had it set up to run.

What is funny is how so many are upset with me for making this thread just expressing I'm ready for it to end and let's get on with whatever new comes next, lol. But some ignore I'm not the only one saying how lack luster this pack is, we do have those saying this Expansion doesn't even come with new whims or wants/wishes. So, there again, older EPs applied new whims/wishes/wants but in TS4 no, just skip them pay more for less..this time the less is no whims at all. Sure, people may not want them anymore, but those of us who expect EP quality expect the things all EPs contain but I guess they can always say, Well, we never meant for wants/wishes/whims to be a tradition like they did with leaving out occults from every EP in TS4. So, there you go..less for more.