"MadameLee;c-17020206" wrote:
"Cinebar;c-17019722" wrote:
"Modsey;c-17017473" wrote:
"Cinebar;c-17016955" wrote:
I'm a bit confused. I thought if I transgenered to a male then I would prefer being called he instead of she. I thought that was the whole point. And vice versa. If male to female I would prefer she instead of he. It's not clear to me why I would want to be called they. I'm not plural. Then there are Sims I would want to be called he or she because that is who I built so I hope that wouldn't be removed and how would we choose what pronoun the game would use? In the CAS filters? another slot to pick the pronoun?
This is a really good question, let me explain why they/them is a good option.
They/them is used for people who don't feel male or female. The term for people like that is non-binary. There are a bunch of identities in non-binary, such as gender neutral where they feel as though they're a third gender with a bit of male and female influences but still unique. Bi-gender, where they feel very strongly that they're BOTH male and female. Agender, people feel they aren't on the gender spectrum at all and are without a specific gender. Gender fluid, like me, where sometimes you feel like a boy sometimes, and other time likes a girl, and sometimes in-between.
So he/him and she/her don't apply to those people and a lot of them use they/them. Like me, I'm gender fluid so I experience multiple gender identities but for the last four months I've been in the middle so I like they/them the most right now.
And it's okay that they/them doesn't feel quite right for you or doesn't make a lot of sense. Even for me I didn't like they/them when I first started accepting I was gender fluid, it took me a while to accept that even though it was usually used as a plural, that it was okay to use for a singular person who didn't identify as male or female. Hopefully this makes more sense :)
Thank you for being very polite to me about my confusion. I really do respect you for that. As far as I am concerned maybe they can add this to CAS options with gender patch so players can choose which pronoun they want their Sim to be referred to while in the game. I don't know how they would do all this. But I call Sim it because they aren't real. And I have never projected myself into the game as I see them as not real. I keep my healthy distance/arm's length from thinking my Sim is real, or I say their name, or if I talk about my Sim I say 'it', no matter what Sim it is.
"Cinebar;c-17019722" wrote:
"Modsey;c-17017473" wrote:
"Cinebar;c-17016955" wrote:
I'm a bit confused. I thought if I transgenered to a male then I would prefer being called he instead of she. I thought that was the whole point. And vice versa. If male to female I would prefer she instead of he. It's not clear to me why I would want to be called they. I'm not plural. Then there are Sims I would want to be called he or she because that is who I built so I hope that wouldn't be removed and how would we choose what pronoun the game would use? In the CAS filters? another slot to pick the pronoun?
This is a really good question, let me explain why they/them is a good option.
They/them is used for people who don't feel male or female. The term for people like that is non-binary. There are a bunch of identities in non-binary, such as gender neutral where they feel as though they're a third gender with a bit of male and female influences but still unique. Bi-gender, where they feel very strongly that they're BOTH male and female. Agender, people feel they aren't on the gender spectrum at all and are without a specific gender. Gender fluid, like me, where sometimes you feel like a boy sometimes, and other time likes a girl, and sometimes in-between.
So he/him and she/her don't apply to those people and a lot of them use they/them. Like me, I'm gender fluid so I experience multiple gender identities but for the last four months I've been in the middle so I like they/them the most right now.
And it's okay that they/them doesn't feel quite right for you or doesn't make a lot of sense. Even for me I didn't like they/them when I first started accepting I was gender fluid, it took me a while to accept that even though it was usually used as a plural, that it was okay to use for a singular person who didn't identify as male or female. Hopefully this makes more sense :)
Thank you for being very polite to me about my confusion. I really do respect you for that. As far as I am concerned maybe they can add this to CAS options with gender patch so players can choose which pronoun they want their Sim to be referred to while in the game. I don't know how they would do all this. But I call Sim it because they aren't real. And I have never projected myself into the game as I see them as not real. I keep my healthy distance/arm's length from thinking my Sim is real, or I say their name, or if I talk about my Sim I say 'it', no matter what Sim it is.
Except sims are born "boy" and "girl" so that means the game recognise gender doesn't it?
I guess. I don't want to offend anyone, that has never been my intentions. I just don't know all the prounouns and terms etc. I would be lost in a sea of new words I don't understand or know. I have said maybe they can add something to CAS so people can set how a popup ( which contains a pronoun) reads in their own games. I would hope he and she would remain, too. I would have no idea how they tackle this, and or if it's cost effective, which is normally what determines what they decide to patch or make. I'm not against it, I might be confused in some areas, however, I think I have tried to think of a way to do this and compromised as much as I understand it, in a way that would benefit all concerned.
But as for me, I have rarely referred to a Sim as a human of any sort, I always say 'the Sim' etc. I have rarely said when speaking to people about Sims he or she, but the Sim. They aren't humans to me, they are toys I play sometimes. ETA: and by that I mean Sims aren't real to me, it's why it's easier to kill one off, see one suffer, which I could never do with a human. Their world isn't my world, it doesn't have to rotate on it's axis. They may mimic life but it doesn't have to be a totally realisitc place or actions.
