Sentiments that make absolutely no sense.

"VeeDub;c-17838977" wrote:
Other than a few sentiments that I felt were gained a bit too quickly, I haven't seen a lot of weirdness with them. The only exception right now is a sim I'm playing from birth to death, who is currently a teenager. I can generally pretend that some oddness could be attributed to hormones and the emotional uncertainty often common to that part of a person's life, but... Yeah, sometimes it's a mystery.

My teen went on a date that ended badly, yet he somehow ended up with "Smitten" and "Deeply in Love" while the girl who cuckolded him (in front of him, while they were still on the date, lol) had absolutely zero sentiments toward my boy. The kids had known each other since early childhood, but they had only flirted around a bit one other time before the date. During the date they flirted some more, but then she asked some other boy to join her in a closet. My kid was pretty sure they weren't playing foosball in there. Ahem. They lost relationship points because of the date fiasco, so I have no idea how those sentiments happened. I gave up trying to explain it to myself. :confused:

I think it's so cool when this happens... sentiments irl aren't something we can control with reason... she may be cold and decided and may have disapointed him in their date but he can't avoid being in love with her :)

"texxx78;c-17839159" wrote:

"VeeDub;c-17838977" wrote:
Other than a few sentiments that I felt were gained a bit too quickly, I haven't seen a lot of weirdness with them. The only exception right now is a sim I'm playing from birth to death, who is currently a teenager. I can generally pretend that some oddness could be attributed to hormones and the emotional uncertainty often common to that part of a person's life, but... Yeah, sometimes it's a mystery.

My teen went on a date that ended badly, yet he somehow ended up with "Smitten" and "Deeply in Love" while the girl who cuckolded him (in front of him, while they were still on the date, lol) had absolutely zero sentiments toward my boy. The kids had known each other since early childhood, but they had only flirted around a bit one other time before the date. During the date they flirted some more, but then she asked some other boy to join her in a closet. My kid was pretty sure they weren't playing foosball in there. Ahem. They lost relationship points because of the date fiasco, so I have no idea how those sentiments happened. I gave up trying to explain it to myself. :confused:

I think it's so cool when this happens... sentiments irl aren't something we can control with reason... she may be cold and decided and may have disapointed him in their date but he can't avoid being in love with her :)

This is true; in real life things like that happen, lol. I interpret this case a little differently (story reasons), but I haven't removed the sentiments because I'm waiting to see how the drama plays out with some other twists now in the mix. He hasn't spoken to her since the date and he's currently "Smitten" with a couple of other people as well. :lol:

I've noticed that alot of the time these "sentiments" can be made while they are in NPC mode. What I mean is let's say you're out with the household you're currently playing to a nightclub or gym, or whatever, your "played" characters that show up in the area while in NPC mode can not only build up relations like friendship (good or bad) but also sentiments.

Hey there! FYI: I moved this thread to the Game Feedback section. :)

Thus far I haven't had any issues with sentiments....one of the best features they've introduced in the sims since TS2.

So far I've had two problems with sentiments.

1) A friend of a vampire suddenly got a "bitter grudge" sentiment toward her with no obvious trigger while having a "pleasant conversation", and with their relationship bar quite high in the positive direction. No idea why.

2) I think the developers forgot about the "player" trait when they created the sentiment system. If a sim's partner has the "player" trait they are not supposed to get upset about their partner flirting, kissing or even woohooing with someone else. I use this trait to create open or polyamorous relationships of various types. Unfortunately, sentiments has kind of broken it. Now sims will get a bitter or hurt sentiment when their partner (with the player trait) does these things. Even though they still don't react with a negative moodlet immediately when the action happens, the sentiment will cause them to periodically get upset.

I've used the cheat to remove these weird and unwanted sentiments, but its such a cumbersome and long cheat code, it's kind of annoying to use.

Most of the rest of the time, I've liked the sentiments and they've made sense. I actually do think they add some depth to the game. But I wish that a toggle to turn them off had been included like it was included for lifestyles. Especially considering that sentiments came in a patch update that cannot be avoided. Players couldn't even choose not to have sentiments by not buying a pack. The sentiment system was forced on everyone whether they wanted it or not. So it really should have come with a "turn off" option.

Yeah, it's a disaster. My sim became close-knit with a room mate. Then all the room mates hung out together to watch a friend's performance. She's had a +5 tense moodlet ever since, because "Friend Balance Crashing!" and I have no idea how to fix it without cheating besides having her hang out alone with her BFF, but that doesn't seem to help. Like, am I stuck with this moodlet? Can she get out of the "close-knit" lifestyle without cheats? Can she stay "close-knit" but also not have a mental breakdown indefinitely??

Oh, and her other room mate hates her because they participated in neighborhood brawl...despite hugging it out after, as one does, they still get an angry moodlet whenever they see each other, because neighborhood brawl created a memory (I'm not calling it a sentiment, that's dumb, it's literally a memory) of them fighting, because naturally, after playfighting with your friend and hugging afterwards, both of you immediately cease speaking to each other and become enraged whenever seeing each other. Totally realistic. Makes perfect sense. /s

I haven't had any toddler sentiments pop up at all :D I kind of wish they would. Honestly, I don't notice them as much as I thought I would. I just sort of play through it. I do have two siblings who absolutely hate each other, both are teens. Every time I pull their relationship to neutral, they start doing mischievous and mean interacts that send them into the red. I am letting this story play out this way as the third sibling, a young adult is my main sim in that save. So I am curious to know how holidays will be at their house >:) :D

"GrimlyFiendish;d-987324" wrote:
A couple of examples from my game recently:

Married couple, maxed out romance level, sharing a meal and conversation with their daughter when one of them becomes enraged and gets a long term bitterness sentiment because her partner was cheating on her (by doing literally nothing else besides eating food and having a conversation with their offspring).

Toddler refuses potty training and becomes defiant literally just one time. Toddler then proceeds to a develop a long term grudge against one of their parents, that no amount of apology or positive activities/conversation will rectify. Sentiment still in place as the child is about to age up into a teen.

The only way I've been able to deal with both these scenarios is to use cheat codes to remove the sentiments in question.

Also the constant 'I'm so glad you don't think my llama jokes are old', and 'I feel like you just get me', in regards to Sims that have just introduced themselves & have maybe said two sentences to each other after that.

Anyone else getting weird, nonsensical sentiments in their game?

I know it's a cliché, but why on Earth do you think a counselor/psychiatrist/psychologist will ask about a patient's potty-training if it doesn't manage to scar a person? We really need the shrink back in our game. Sounds as if your poor Sim is really troubled regarding this training. :open_mouth:

And, yes, the first time a Toddler was bearing a grudge startled me. I was wondering just what sibling (since he has five) had been mean to him. Then I saw that it stated from being near the person. The only other Sim at hand was his mother. :open_mouth: I do think he finally got over it. Now, you make me want to check. He's a Child at this stage. Hate to think he's still harboring bad feelings toward the Sim who birthed him.

"SimsLady2000;c-17832923" wrote:
I haven't had any toddler sentiments pop up at all :D I kind of wish they would. Honestly, I don't notice them as much as I thought I would. I just sort of play through it. I do have two siblings who absolutely hate each other, both are teens. Every time I pull their relationship to neutral, they start doing mischievous and mean interacts that send them into the red. I am letting this story play out this way as the third sibling, a young adult is my main sim in that save. So I am curious to know how holidays will be at their house >:) :D

Oh, how odd. When my one set of identical twin girls aged up to Teen, suddenly, they were arguing. I built a story around the reasons why, but still. Harmony is still so angry at Melodie that she stormed into the Parents' Saver Room to find her father. Ultimately, after she ranted and raved, for which he attempted to calm her down. She asked for her own bedroom. These two have shared a room since birth. I color-coded them just to tell the girls apart. Melodie in pink, with Harmony in purple or shades thereof. They had a suite in the brand new house. A bedroom, with an archway to the other room, which they turned into a combination playroom/study room, desks, book cabinet and toy chests. Once their baby sister came along, they gave Cadence the former playroom/study.

"Finvola;c-17837971" wrote:
I got the one with kids at the Festival of Youth and the two sisters being mad at each other and their parents for nearly a full week because they didn't receive a blessing. That was ridiculous! Why would something silly like that last a whole week but a cheating spouse sentiment lasts for a couple of hours? It makes no sense at all.

Yep, I had a similar one! My child sim was peeved at her mum and TODDLER brother for not giving her the "blessing of Youth". I mean sorry champ, but your brother is a baby and doesn't even have the interaction and your mum is at work earning a living to keep a roof over your head, so sorry that they couldn't give you some dumb blessing that literally means nothing in the grand scheme of the game. (seriously if it provided a skill boost for a few days instead of just a buff it would be more useful XP)