There's no roads for cars

"GracieO312;c-18033088" wrote:

"cyncie;c-18033063" wrote:
I guess I just don’t get the obsession with needing cars in the game. And this comes from someone who appreciates and owns some classic vehicles. The aesthetic of some worlds would be completely ruined by cars, which are pretty useless from a functional gameplay standpoint, anyway. I would be disappointed to suddenly see cars in Sulani, Forgotten Hollow, or HOB.

Um can I just say that as a Brit who happens to live in the countryside cars are absolutely essential to getting anywhere so they make complete sense in HOB - probably the most sense out of all the worlds tbf!

Indeed. As another Brit in the countryside, it would make sense for the outskirts. The same can be said for the countryside outside Windenburg town.

That said, I also don't see the need for functional cars in the game. The 'NPC' cars that drive by is enough for me. I suggested above transport themed loading screens as a level of abstraction that would fit the bill, IMO.

I tend to see the structure of the game in terms of each neighbourhood acting like a theater set. Transitions between the different sets are sort of a 'Meanwhile...' while playing rotationaly or a cut to new scene when controlling a single household. I could, possibly, see a set where cars were a feature of the set as an object that could be interacted with, but as a functional mode of transport in the game - I'm not seeing it.

That's always been my thought train on the whole "We want cars!" crowd. Maybe Willow Creek it'd be fine but half the other worlds aren't designed for cars. If the game was designed from the ground up with cars in mind then they'd be a totally viable thing but there's way too many worlds where there's no roads, or the roads that are there are far away from the lots and it would take ages to walk to them, which would make it take forever for sims to get anywhere in snow/blizzard weather conditions, and would be terrible for vampires whenever it's sunny.

"GracieO312;c-18033088" wrote:

"cyncie;c-18033063" wrote:
I guess I just don’t get the obsession with needing cars in the game. And this comes from someone who appreciates and owns some classic vehicles. The aesthetic of some worlds would be completely ruined by cars, which are pretty useless from a functional gameplay standpoint, anyway. I would be disappointed to suddenly see cars in Sulani, Forgotten Hollow, or HOB.

Um can I just say that as a Brit who happens to live in the countryside cars are absolutely essential to getting anywhere so they make complete sense in HOB - probably the most sense out of all the worlds tbf!

Oh, I understand. I live in rural US and the stereotypical pickup truck really is a necessity. I’d 100% go for a Morris, Mini Cooper or even a Land Rover in HOB. I like British cars and toyed with the idea of getting a Morris Mini at one time. I just wouldn’t want random Caddies, stretch limos, or Porsches whizzing by to break up the ambience. Because, you know, if we have cars they won’t just be generic. We car folks want style and we’ll have the equivalent of automotive townies inappropriately running around.?

"cyncie;c-18033124" wrote:

"GracieO312;c-18033088" wrote:

"cyncie;c-18033063" wrote:
I guess I just don’t get the obsession with needing cars in the game. And this comes from someone who appreciates and owns some classic vehicles. The aesthetic of some worlds would be completely ruined by cars, which are pretty useless from a functional gameplay standpoint, anyway. I would be disappointed to suddenly see cars in Sulani, Forgotten Hollow, or HOB.

Um can I just say that as a Brit who happens to live in the countryside cars are absolutely essential to getting anywhere so they make complete sense in HOB - probably the most sense out of all the worlds tbf!

Oh, I understand. I live in rural US and the stereotypical pickup truck really is a necessity. I’d 100% go for a Morris, Mini Cooper or even a Land Rover in HOB. I just wouldn’t want random Caddy’s or Porsches whizzing by.

More likely to be Range Rover Sports, Audies, Beemers, and there are quite a few big pickups in the mix as well. O yeah, and Porsches. :grin:

British roads, when quiet, are serious fun :naughty:

"ModerateOsprey;c-18033128" wrote:

"cyncie;c-18033124" wrote:

"GracieO312;c-18033088" wrote:

"cyncie;c-18033063" wrote:
I guess I just don’t get the obsession with needing cars in the game. And this comes from someone who appreciates and owns some classic vehicles. The aesthetic of some worlds would be completely ruined by cars, which are pretty useless from a functional gameplay standpoint, anyway. I would be disappointed to suddenly see cars in Sulani, Forgotten Hollow, or HOB.

Um can I just say that as a Brit who happens to live in the countryside cars are absolutely essential to getting anywhere so they make complete sense in HOB - probably the most sense out of all the worlds tbf!

Oh, I understand. I live in rural US and the stereotypical pickup truck really is a necessity. I’d 100% go for a Morris, Mini Cooper or even a Land Rover in HOB. I just wouldn’t want random Caddy’s or Porsches whizzing by.

More likely to be Range Rover Sports, Audies, Beemers, and there are quite a few big pickups in the mix as well. O yeah, and Porsches. :grin:

British roads, when quiet, are serious fun :naughty:

Ooooh! Gotta watch out for Peter Rabbit, though. And evil chickens. ?

"GracieO312;c-18033088" wrote:

"cyncie;c-18033063" wrote:
I guess I just don’t get the obsession with needing cars in the game. And this comes from someone who appreciates and owns some classic vehicles. The aesthetic of some worlds would be completely ruined by cars, which are pretty useless from a functional gameplay standpoint, anyway. I would be disappointed to suddenly see cars in Sulani, Forgotten Hollow, or HOB.

Um can I just say that as a Brit who happens to live in the countryside cars are absolutely essential to getting anywhere so they make complete sense in HOB - probably the most sense out of all the worlds tbf!

Pretty much this. I thought about that as well with Henford on Bagley, even if it's meant to simulate an old countryside.

In some neighborhoods I can see how having cars on your lots might not fit into the environment because you are living in closed off areas. But in some other neighborhoods that are much more open it looks very odd to me that our sims can't own cars when you see them parked on the streets.

And I have seen plenty of gallery builds online where people are building houses and are forced to use debug items because they wanted to build a classic suburban house with a garage and a car parked outside.

"MadIris;c-18033156" wrote:
As a relatively late to the game player, was there a lot of people who didn't like/want cars in the Sims 2?

Sims 2 had cars from the very beginning. Not ones you could own at first, but you had car pools pick you up for work right out of the base game, with nicer cars the farther you got promoted. So it was a logical extension of what was already in place to allow you to buy your own cars.

Literally all lots in the game had street access as well, it was literally a requirement to place a lot that there be a street there to butt it up against.

That said, beyond a sim getting in the car, they didn't serve any actual purpose because there was absolutely no neighborhood activities in the game. Your sims were confined to a single lot and the street right in front of it.
Imagine if in TS4, when you visited the bar downtown, that the ONLY thing loaded when you got there was that specific 40 x 40 lot that held the bar. That's how TS2 was. The whole getting in the car was just an extra animation step before the loading screen transition between lots. (That and you could woohoo in them, etc. :lol:)

"logion;c-18033134" wrote:

"GracieO312;c-18033088" wrote:

"cyncie;c-18033063" wrote:
I guess I just don’t get the obsession with needing cars in the game. And this comes from someone who appreciates and owns some classic vehicles. The aesthetic of some worlds would be completely ruined by cars, which are pretty useless from a functional gameplay standpoint, anyway. I would be disappointed to suddenly see cars in Sulani, Forgotten Hollow, or HOB.

Um can I just say that as a Brit who happens to live in the countryside cars are absolutely essential to getting anywhere so they make complete sense in HOB - probably the most sense out of all the worlds tbf!

Pretty much this. I thought about that as well with Henford on Bagley, even if it's meant to simulate an old countryside.

In some neighborhoods I can see how having cars on your lots might not fit into the environment because you are living in closed off areas. But in some other neighborhoods that are much more open it looks very odd to me that our sims can't own cars when you see them parked on the streets.

And I have seen plenty of gallery builds online where people are building houses and are forced to use debug items because they wanted to build a classic suburban house with a garage and a car parked outside.

Actually cars don't need roads, just an even enough terrain that they can drive on. So, if a house is built in a remote area, it probably can be accessed even if there was no proper paved road. I would rather we get cars that can drive on any area, even on the big islands on Sulani, if we fancy moving around the island in a car. Town cars could get a chance to get stuck in sand if driven on beaches. ?

Most European towns/areas that are pedestrianised also have dedicated parking and other options nearby, whether that be a bike rental service, bus route, Park & Ride schemes, trams or subways.

You could also have off-road options like dirt bikes, dune buggies or 4x4s.

Bus stops and subway rabbitholes would be great things too, if we could get them.

All extra travel options are fine with me. They all have the ability to add gameplay (such as taking the bus for a moderate fee, or walking/cycling for free and arriving at your destination wet & cold from the rain, or hot and sweaty from the heat).

Thanks for all the responses to my thread! I think decorative cars for driveways are cool. I like the truck that came with cottage living in debug. More of that is all I need.

I do miss the carpool for careers, and as you got promoted the car would change. I also liked working on cars in Sims 2 Free Play. And when there were actual brand-name models in the game that was fun too. Car related clutter would be delightful. Gas can, tire iron, tool boxes with wrenches, an air pump. Garage stuff basically.

I wasn't a big fan of Sims 3 open world. I don't need the cars to be animated.