I wonder if this pack is worth getting if not into werevolves?I don't mind NPC werewolves living in that world, but would it work using most of those lots as regular residential lots? Will the werewolf theme be too intruding? I like the grunge esthetics, but I don't want all my 400 sims to suddenly grow heavy body hair (especially not the infants, lol).Is there any features with this pack that is a positive asset to sims living regular lives in other worlds? Any negative effects I should be aware of?I think my computer might prefer med adding a GP rather than a EP because it means less resources required, and I'm pretty desperate for a new world :) I don't own Growing together either, but I fear that pack will affect my game more heavily, with lag etc, and I'm not really into detailed family play anyway.Can the werewolf pack be compared to Vampires? Occult if you want it, but a small world that can be used regardless of the theme if you like the world setting?

The werewolf world is perfectly usable but you will see werewolves in moonwood mill. You can change all lot types and build whatever you like. If you keep the bar lot type, other occults will also spawn when you visit the bar. In the world there are two werewolf hangout spots where werewolves will gather so you will see them. You can turn off werewolves for all other worlds so the pack is absolutely not intrusive. But moonwood mill is occult terrain. You could set the moon phase to be permanent new moon or any other moon fase that is not full moon. That way you can avoid full moon werewolf rampages. Rampage due to temperaments can't be avoided. Perhaps you could cheat the temperaments on existing werewolves. You could give them the 4 positive blue temperament so they don't build fury. Carl has a mod that makes this easier if you don't like typing cheat codes. I don't know any features outside off the werewolves that can be used. Perhaps the collectibles but I don't know how successful a non-werewolf is in collecting them. On the bright side there are no intrusive features to disrupt your game. The only other thing that came in the pack is a small telescope but that was patched into base game. I wish they would followed the same principle for the infant changing table. Werewolves is totally unrelated to body hair. Body hair wasn't even in the game when werewolves was released. Body hair came with high school years and that's the pack that makes body hair grow. I have the werewolves pack but not high school years. New sims in CAS occasionally get body hair but it does not grow in live mode. Newly generated spellcasters in CAS get an insane amount of scars, so having to remove them in CAS is a small downside.As for the comparison with growing together: the world is bigger but only the neighbourhood with the community centre has fishing spots, swimmable water and walking paths. The rest feels rather empty with very few walk by Sims. Moonwood mill feels more alive. On the gameplay side is growing together more intrusive with social chemistry, family dynamics, self discovery moments, midlife crisises and npc's inviting themselves over for sleepovers. I like it but it is one of those packs you will notice in regular gameplay. The only game mechanics you can turn off are self discovery moments and sims getting fired from work. Also infants are more difficult to play with growing together because they don't start with the ability to crawl and sit in a high chair like they do without the pack.As for the comparison to vampires, I think they are very similar. You don't have to interact with the werewolves but they are there. You will notice werewolves a bit more in their own world but you can force them to act human in every other world.

For me I feel like no I wouldn't get this pack if I had no interest in playing occult/werewolvesor seeing them aroundits pretty world but theres only 5 lots in it and theres not much to do besides werewolves and occult lore stuffalso there is rather many woodsy worlds in the game to pick from for non occult means so :sweat_smile: the wolves can be little annoying on community lots since sims react to sims in wolf formthere is toggle to disable them turning wolf out of moonwood but its for out of moonwood so yeah community lots in moonwood would still probably be chaoticwhen on residential lot in moonwood its similar to the forgotten hollow in that you'll just probably see some walkby wolves going around the place similar to how caleb and lilith be always running around FHI don't think sims be suddenly growing body hair or stuff like that thotheres some build buy and cas that can be used for grunge purposes n such but not a whole lot

When I first bought The Werewolf pack, it was just for the world and I did not play as a werewolf. I also did not play as a teen. But the teen werewolf rag to riches challenges inspired me to stretch myself out of my comfort zone. Werewolves are the only occult I have played so far. The other occult world I still just use for the worlds. If I can buy them on sale, all worlds are worth it for me to buy even if I don't use the gameplay included.Little by little, I keep stretching myself to start including bits of things from all the packs. I had no interest in the fame stuff and still am shy of it, but when I learned that Ward Park in Get Famous is a $0 lot when it is bulldozed, I was inspired to use all $0 building ideas to have a truly $0 lot. I am playing a rags to riches child alone on Del Sol Valley, and as I play here, NOT yet using any of the fame features, I can see how eventually I might want to start exploring the gameplay that was designed for this world that I am starting to love. But not yet. I am content to just use the world.If you can afford it, I think you will enjoy importing your established gameplay into Moonwood Mills. You may or may not gradually choose to get sucked into some of the gameplay.Visiting a world is not the same as living in it. I can see that now. I am doing the opposite of you. Moonwood Mill remains my default world to start, but I am stretching myself to start in other worlds.In Moonwood Mills, I always set my moon cycle to 4 days, because if you swim in the lake on a full moon, your energy fills in a couple seconds, and you get a whole day without needing sleep. Those extra hours are a real bonus to work on skills and aspirations. I love using small lot near the lake to start. I move the starter house on it to the larger lot in the center of the town and improve it and add a garden.Moonwood Mills is my favorite world. I visit it even when I am living in another world. I have the small residential lot near the lake set up as a campground, and visiting sims can use everything on the lot. I put the treehouse and a camping bathroom there. And the Jungle Adventures selling table that keeps food and fish cold.Everyone complains about the gameplay in the Wedding Pack, but I use the WORLD not the gameplay and Tartosa is my second favorite world. I have another campground set up there. I bulldozed the house on the little island.My goal is to live on every one of the lots in the these videos, and for now to build some sort of camping/homeless encampment on each one. There is a LOT of overlap in these videos. The first two videos are very short and just list the cheapest lots that were available in 2021. The last video is longer and is the "best" lots and includes Tartosa, Moonwood Mills and the Highschool pack. The last video includes my favorite Moonwood Mills lot almost at the end of the video, and also my favorite Highschool years lot.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpjK8JTtVHw https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NOy6ZsfA32chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqLzuvrsGwo&t=2sYes, the Werewolves pack is worth it even if you don't play the werewolves.

Wow! Thanks for in depth comments and lots of gaming ideas! Loved reading them all, awesome!I might have only residential lots in Moonwood Mills, but it sounds fun with one community camp ground lot. Even if I won't focus on the occult, at least not from the start, I might have a teen club visiting and exploring (based on the guy featured in my video below), and perhaps in the long run werewolves might get accepted in my game. I will have a Baron's manor there, maybe he should get bitten at some point, but that is not something I'll do right away. I simply need more lots for existing houses, and the world looks quite nice. I think it will fit well with my Crafthole region, basically built on mining, but there could of course be timber activity too. I wanted Copperfield for this, but I hesitate with all the Social Bunny and "be my friend" stuff, plus I hardly focus on teens anyway.

If you really like Moonwood Mill, it can be possible to play it without Werewolves. Also, I've actually learned not to long ago, that if you temperary make a Super Werewolf (that's a Werewolf with most of the powers), that sim can actually defeat permanently Greg. As for the Moonwood Townies, I'm not sure.On another note, I do recommend the following woodsy Worlds that aren't locked with the Wolfies. They are:Henford (Cottage Living)Glimmerbrook (Realm of Magic)

Werewolves pack - features when you don't play werewolves?

Simmerville
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
"JustinB113;c-18287644" wrote:
I know you got it in the end but for me, I found out of all the occult packs this was the least interesting if you didn’t play the occult.

I don’t play as vampires but I use their B/B a lot and I’ve used the realm of magic world a lot. I don’t really like werewolves build and CAS or world that much. I also think they’re a little more intrusive than the other occults even though you can switch them off.

I do think it will be fun to play as them though. But as a background pack I don’t rate it personally.

Thanks! I like the world, but I also found a fun way to play one of the werewolves without actually diving into it that much. I had the Count and Countess hire Lily as their Cook, and they don't know her werewolf side. I'm having fun seeing her in various situations in their estate, knowing she must do her best to keep her secret to herself. She cooks, serves and cleans, and sleeps in a tiny servant room next to the kitchen. I have n idea what will happen if I play this house during full moon. I don't know if she will then need to run away for that night to avoid smashing the kitchen, lol.

I might move on to ROM later this Summer.
Simmerville
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
I read some more abut this pack. My question now is what will happen to NPCs if I make all 5 lots residential?

Lou Howell (Wildfangs Pack Member)
Rory Oaklow (Wildfangs Pack Leader/Alpha)
Celene López (Mixologist)
Wolfgang Wilder (Librarian)
Greg (Feral Werewolf/Widower Werewolf)

I assume Greg will not be affected, but what mission have the librarian and the mixologist and will I ruin something by removing the library and bar? Can it be mended by rebuilding a bar on a smaller lot? I need the biggest lot for residential...
Simmerville
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
One more question - does werewolves live longer or shorter or the same as human sims?
Simmerville
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
"Katofhyrule12;c-18276831" wrote:
No matter what, after awhile, a lot of the werewolves die and move to other worlds and stop showing up in Moonwood Mills and they are replaced with spawned werewolves that serve the bar and library. People have posted that they had some troubles completing the werewolves aspirations because there were no leader of the packs, though.

I was really worried at the beginning that I would mess something up, but it looks like that is pretty hard to do. There is redundancy about things like gathering the collectables. If you alter a community building, you will not cover up the only place to dig a critical item.

My bigger worry right now is whether the bar and library can be recategorized or not. I plan to use the bar lot for a manor, and the library might stay a community lot but perhaps not a library. I assume I will miss out on some lore facts, which I can live with, but if the game must have those two lots to function, I'll be facing problems...
MaggieMae7276
Rising Traveler
2 years ago
@Simmerville, I sympathize with you as that has happened a few times to me as well. Now I try to remember to save during the game, or after completing certain things when I am building. It is very frustrating when you spend all that time completing thing you want to do and then lose it! Wishing you luck that the crashes stop for you! @Katofhyrule12, I agree that Windows is part of the problem. Hoping my grandson can figure out the best build for a new computer that will play all of my games well.
Monet11
New Spectator
2 years ago

"Simmerville;c-18284706" wrote:
Back on topic - I'm now busy adjusting my Moonwood Mill :) I have fun, I think the world is very good, and I don't regret getting it. I find it a tad dark when building, but no big deal. - snip

Is the world dark? I am thinking of getting it while it's on sale, but I don't like dark worlds.
Katofhyrule12
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago
"Simmerville;c-18284706" wrote:
Back on topic - I'm now busy adjusting my Moonwood Mill :)

The yellow-ish shed might be home to a horse, some day... Hopefully werewolves won't attack a horse...

Thanks for sharing! I didn't know you had a website. Thanks for sharing that, too! Moonwood Mills was the first world that I really played in, so it is "homebase" to me. Everything I learned later branches out from starting there. It is so interesting for me to see someone enter the world so much later in their Sims journey.
Simmerville
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
"Monet11;c-18286630" wrote:

I have decided to place Moonwood Mill adjacent to Copperdale. They feel similar to me. This screenshot has inspired me to write a little short story. I have not yet decided to have werewolves. I am using a mod to keep them under control for now.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53024233075_92d9bdfe04_z.jpg

Love your screenshot!

Funny, I placed Moonwood in my "Crafthole" (name from Sims Medieval, I play the House of Paris, descending from the Smithmasters). In my Crafthole is also Copperdale :) Originally I placed Moonwood with Granite Falls near Windenburg, but something made me move locations. I don't have HSY so I never played in Copperdale, though...

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