Cannot edit pre-exisiting sims relationships

I'm surprised that it's not working in cas.fulleditmode.

If you use mods, MC Command Center might be able to help.  Might.

@Psychotps What existing relationship do you mean?

@xochiquetzl_xkvn I have MCCC and I looked into that but it didn't work because the options were still the same, just through a different route. I also have UI cheats but the relationship bits function it has is only for story telling purposes (The relationships bits are artificial and doesn't actually make, for example, Korey Caleb's real dad. Its just a meaningless bit)

I have MCCC and I looked into that but it didn't work because the options were still the same, just through a different route. I also have UI cheats but the relationship bits function it has is only for story telling purposes (The relationships bits are artificial and doesn't actually make, for example, Korey Caleb's real dad. Its just a meaningless bit)

@SianAF148

If it says "Cannot edit pre-existing sims", you can't set the relationship between two sims (like in the picture above) while there is an existing relationship. Delete the relationship between the two sims. Whatever it is, so they don't even know each other. (You can do this with MCCC) The option will then no longer be greyed out and you can set it to whatever you want.

Also, if you want Korey to be Caleb's father, you'll have to age Caleb down to teen or Korey up to Elder before you can set Korey to be the father and just correct the age later.

So do I have to stop Lilith and Caleb being siblings to reset things?

@SianAF148

Possibly. I found its sometimes best to just delete all of the family's relationships with each other. That way I can set it to whatever I want.

Note: There ARE some rare occasions where it won't let you set a specific relationship. Like the Bjergsens. I can set Sofia to be daughter of Clara and Bjorn. And I can set Elsa to be the daughter of Clara and sister of Sofia, but for some reason it won't let me set Elsa to be Bjorn's daughter. Can't figure that one out. For some reason it won't accept Bjorn as Elsa's father.

Oh right. I'll give it a go. I also think it has something to do with what I can best describe as "non existent" or "mystery" parents. For example, with this whole Vatore thing, I've noticed that the sim I created is the mother of Lilith and Caleb, and that there is the other parental relationship for the Vatore siblings going to a grey default profile picture looking thing.

Last time I had this issue someone told me to try and remove that but I have... no idea how. Does Elsa have a mystery, unidentified father which is blocking Bjorn from taking the role? 

@SianAF148

I suppose its possible. Not sure how to remove that either. It's not a relationship issue then... it's a family tree thing.

There might be a down-and-dirty method of fixing it... it would entail creating a NEW Elsa and configuring her to be the same as the old one. Copying looks and outfits is easy. MCCC has a copy/paste option to copy another sim's looks and outfits. Then she would "appear" the same as the old one, without the mystery "father".

Try deleting the relationships first and see if it lets you set everything properly. (Make sure to check their ages first) If it works, you're golden. If it won't allow a certain relationship to be set like Elsa, then you may need to recreate them.

P.S. See what you did?  Now I have to try that on mine...

Figured out an easier way to fix Elsa. What was happening appears to be a glitch in the parent's relationship. Even though their married, it acted like they were brother and sister, but only in regards to Elsa. If I set Clara to be Elsa's mother then Bjorn can't be the father. If I set Bjorn to be the father, then I can't set Clara to be the mother. Don't know why its doing that.

What I ended up doing was this...  I took the family into CAS and then saved it to my library. I deleted Elsa completely from the family. I then used F4 to merge the family in the library with the current one. This gave me duplicates of Bjorn, Clara, and Sofia. I deleted the duplicates. So, I had the original family and then Elsa from the version from the library.

It then allowed me to set all the relationships properly. This will work, however you'll lose all other relationships with everyone else outside the family. You'll keep the job and skills though.

Well I tried a combination of our different tactics on a duplicate of my save, and making Lilith and Caleb not even know each other exist and then making them siblings allowed me to successfully make each parent related to both of them as parents.

However.

The issue is that on my save, Lilith and Caleb are.... somewhat popular... and as much as it is possible to go around every household and redo all their relationships... I'd rather not spend an hour doing it. But in future saves, I'll be sure to add family relationships to pre-mades that I actually like before having their presence knitted into the memory of many of my sims. Before giving the Vatores parents, I gave Morgyn Ember from RoM some parents and a sister, but since Morgyn is a lone character with no pre-existing relationships it was relatively easy and I was hoping it would be the same for Lilith and Caleb but I realised it was not.