Vivaland vs Project Renee

"bizuktag;c-18316689" wrote:
I'm glad Sims has competition, because it's healthy and can drive good game development. But I'm yet to be wowed by almost any of the other games that are on the horizon. I'd really love a trailer that shouts "hey, this is a life simulation game", rather than "hey, this is a house building game".

I know it's early for all of these games, but it feels an awful lot like developers trying to convince me that their tools for frosting a cake are the best, and forgetting the cake itself. All the curved walls and free cushion placement (the frosting) don't mean much to me if the actual gameplay (the cake) isn't a strong foundation to begin with.

To be fair building it is what is work on first.

"Horrorgirl6;c-18316692" wrote:

To be fair building it is what is work on first.

Not to mention, in initial development The Sims actually started out as a building game, a follow up to Sim City where you were designing houses instead of cities. The sims themselves were created later on as a way to score the building based on how easily these AI characters could navigate the spaces. I remember The Sims base game still had architectural scoring mechanisms as a vestige of that.

I sometimes wonder if EA will create a spinoff to the Sims that's more like the the original concept. I think that would actually be popular given how many Sims 4 players are builders. I just hope, if they do that, that it's a spin off and that the main series continues to offer a lot for those of us who spend most of our time in Live mode.

"Horrorgirl6;c-18316692" wrote:
To be fair building it is what is work on first.

They can work on whatever they want first, but that doesn't mean that's what they need to market first. I'd like a life simulation game to show me there's more to it than building houses. And I think they'll all (not just Vivaland) need to show they have more to offer to really pull in the audience that Maxis has cultivated with the Sims franchise.

"bizuktag;c-18316707" wrote:

"Horrorgirl6;c-18316692" wrote:
To be fair building it is what is work on first.

They can work on whatever they want first, but that doesn't mean that's what they need to market first. I'd like a life simulation game to show me there's more to it than building houses. And I think they'll all (not just Vivaland) need to show they have more to offer to really pull in the audience that Maxis has cultivated with the Sims franchise.

What I'm trying to say build mode is always the first and most complete to show.When it's closer they show the characters.Live mode is always the last thing that is work on.

I feel the 2024 date may be a place holder as I feel there will be some delays down the road.

"EdieAppleby;c-18317184" wrote:
Looks bad, like a sims ripoff. These people need to stop trying to remake the Sims and build their own game from scratch like Paralives.

There not trying to remake the sims? There trying to make three own game.

Well I certainly like the look of it! The multiplayer part doesn't interest me at all, and I would be put off playing a game like this with other people, but the fact you can use a solo mode and go offline...I'd definitely try it out :)

I didn't even know this was a thing!

https://twitter.com/vivalandgame/status/1724448602544615644?t=MNOXsOg_7tBD27EZ7lMYWg&s=19

I don't consider Vivaland to be a direct competitor of PL/PR/LBY/IZ ... It's real-time multiplayer. Reminds me more of Second Life.

"simmerorigin;c-18326444" wrote:
I don't consider Vivaland to be a direct competitor of PL/PR/LBY/IZ ... It's real-time multiplayer. Reminds me more of Second Life.

They have a singlenplayer mode as well and Renee has multiplayer as well.