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eliansukke180 wrote:
So becasue you grew up without something you shouldnt complain about it?

So let's say, tomorrow, some huge corporation unveals their newest invention. Some type of futuristic helicopter car thing. Gets you to work a lot faster than your car.

20 years from now, a lot of people have a machine like that and i decide to buy a new one. I buy it, they deliver it to my house, i get in and i discover that if i actually want to use it, i have to pay a lot more money for extra parts and even after paying a lot money i just get some random items and i will never be certain that the stuff i get is the stuff i want for my machine. Oh, and it's a little broken too!
Still, i shouldnt complain because that machine wasnt there when i was growing up. Ive I gone a long time without having one of those machines so no complaining now you bought this crappy one. Just suck it up.

Now, even worse. 20 years later, some guy that grew up while that machine was around, buys one with the same issues. But he shouldnt complain, he has no right to complain becasue I was brought up without one. BAck in my days, this machine didnt exist, so no complaining!

Because that's what your basically saying. You grew up without smartphones and freemium games so no one should complain about it. Even the onbes that grew up with smartphones and freemium games.

Well, i grew up without a mobile phone, a microwave or a playstation or a lot of other devices for that matter. But i know i will complain when one of those devices doesnt do what they should do. Or one of m does for a long time and gets updated to a point where its really not that good any more.

And, please, don't wave this off as another "immature" comment. Dealing with feedback, both positive and negative, is a huge part of maturity as well. :wink:

Okay. I'll deal with it. But just remember... you made me do it!! :wink:

Look... You're obviously not getting my point, either. So I'll break things down for you, and maybe you'll understand. (I can't do the same with 'wicked' because his mind is set, and obviously he's not open to civil discussion. He just wants to argue. And I don't want to argue.)

So here goes:

If you pay for something that doesn't work, than you have every right to complain. I've never said anything to the contrary.

All I was trying to get at in my post was the amazing development of technology and how things have changed over the years. And how expensive things used to be when they first came out. Like computers. Years ago, when they first came out, you couldn't buy one unless you were very wealthy. (Not to mention, they were HUGE!!!) But thankfully, in time, they became affordable, and reasonably sized, for all.

Is this wrong?

And games. There was NO such thing as a free computer game. You had no choice but to purchase it. But now, thanks to the internet, companies are giving games away for free. That used to be unheard of. Of course they're hoping you'll spend money to get the 'better stuff'. But you don't have to. It's a choice.

Is this wrong?

Also, like I stated and agreed with in every other additional post, if you spent money on this game during the Easter event (or at any other time, for that matter), in order to get those 'better things', and wind up with useless stuff, or having your game glitch and losing money in the process, your frustrations are valid. I, myself, have had this happen, so I do agree.

Is this wrong?

But if you've never spent a dime, and still manage to play a free game, or win free stuff (even some of those 'better prizes'), how could a person possibly complain? It would be like getting a gift at Christmas, only to complain that it's not good enough. How does that not come across as spoiled, or selfish? (Which has nothing to do with how old you are.)

Is this wrong?

What you've stated in your posts is that, if you pay for something and it doesn't work, then you have every right to complain. Right? (Even though the whole 'futuristic car' thing wasn't necessary. You could have talked about a flashlight and the point would have been the same.)

Well, I agree with you. And I've never disagreed about this.

What part about that is wrong?

However, you also stated that I was basically saying that, "You grew up without smartphones or freemium games, so no one should complain about them."

First of all, I never said anything about smartphones. So we can dispel with that part of it. Please don't add words in order to make a point. Especially if those words are going to make you angry. It's unfair. If you reread my post, you'll see that I've never said that.

Go ahead. I'll wait. :wink:

And I never said that, just because I didn't grow up with something, that people shouldn't complain about it. On the contrary!! My story, initially, was to show how things were different, and to marvel at the changes that have been made over the years. I feel lucky that I've experienced so much. Which is why I mentioned EPCOT. Imagine seeing something before it actually happens... and then to watch as it happens!! It's quite a neat experience.

Is that wrong?

But I will stand by my original point: It's wrong to complain about something that you've been given for free. Especially if you, for the most part, have gotten a lot of enjoyment out of it. And it's wrong to expect someone to keep giving it to you for free.

When I say, "you," I don't mean YOU, personally. I just want to make that clear.

Also, please keep this word in mind: free. Again, I am NOT talking about paying customers.

During this event, prizes were given away. And everybody won something. If you didn't spend any money, but still managed to win prizes, that's a great thing! But is it okay to complain if you didn't get what you want, especially if you didn't spend any money?

How is that okay?

Unfortunately, once a person has it in their head that they've been 'wronged', they sometimes have a hard time putting away their anger and listening to reason. They see something that bothers them and won't open their eyes to the entire picture. Or they'll add words to an argument that will only cause the person adding them to grow enraged.

And that could happen at any age.

Maturity also has to do with patience and understanding.

My original post was very long. I agree. But I honestly think that those who got upset didn't read the entire thing. I never said that a person shouldn't complain if they've spent money on a game that didn't work, or spent money only to feel cheated. They have every right to be.

But unfortunately, there are some people who like to argue just for the sake of arguing. And they'll continue to argue, even after the person they're arguing with has agreed with them.

Maturity is also knowing when to stop!

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TO EVERYONE:

If I've offended anyone of the younger generation, I apologize. I promise you, that was not my intention. It was a story to show how technology has changed over the years, as much as it was to make a point. However, I do realize that not everyone is the same, and that there are MANY young people who know better. I should not have singled out a generation, since it's obvious that age really has nothing to do with it. Especially when it comes to maturity!! There are very young people who are mature well beyond their years. (My own children, in fact!) And there are older people who still have a lot of growing up to do. (HA!! You've seen my avatar, right? :wink: ) But regardless of the age, I hope you understand what I was getting at. And it was NOT to put anyone down.