Snakeyees wrote:annettemarc wrote:Snakeyees wrote:LedoveeeKladivo wrote:LPNintendoITA wrote:
Till everyone understands what a Random number generator works this topic will keep appearing over and over and over.
The wheel is an RNG calculated as soon as the wheel is spun. No matter how fast or slow u spin it it will still be rng.
due to this and the fact the wheel is not designed well so lag and such gives u those results.
of course the rng is influenced by the chances of every item
Random number generator??? what the hell you are talking about? In last 10 days, I allways hit the same field with stupid 1000money. Only one field on my wheel of bad-luck is the money option. Now I have two tokens per day to try badluck and all the time the same. F*UCK this!!! Another great EA job (after Sim-City parody or Battlesh*t "or BattleBug" 4 release)!!!
RNG=Random number generator...... Used in a number of games everything from these type of games all the way up to MMO'S its here to stay. Let me try to explain you have 10 slots on the wheel each slot has a Number 1-10 some slots have a higher % chance to land on that number. when you enter the screen where you spin the wheel the game has already decided what number you going to land on 1-10 you spin the wheel the wheel speeds up or slows down to hit that mark. sometimes it missis that mark and goes one space further sometimes people get lucky and benefit this glitch sometimes they don't. IT IS WHAT IT IS.
I'll ask for the third time on this forum and I will continue to ask until my question is answered satisfactorily. (Thus far, the silence has been deafening) WHERE has EA published this information WITHIN THEIR GAME so that the average but diligent player may read it?
For the free tokens, it is bad enough that they play typically sleazy corporate games. THAT is slimy, but not illegal.
But when I choose to give them real life money and (pay attention here.) WHEN THEY CHOOSE TO ACCEPT MY REAL LIFE MONEY, then, AT THAT MOMENT we have a real life, business CONTRACT. In my REAL LIFE law school Contracts class, i learned it is termed "offer and acceptance".
At that moment, they are LEGALLY bound to not misrepresent what they are SELLING. That is called FRAUD. When a business displays a wheel with EQUALLY SIZED wedges, I am not guaranteed any one of them more (listen up here) OR LESS THAN any of the others.
UNLESS the wheel displays true odds at those times I SPIN IT WITH A PAID FOR TOKEN, then UNDER CONTRACT, I am (here comes the word) ENTITLED to recompense.
I can't believe ANY of you can dare justify this. Wait. Of course I can. This nation has become so weakened by big business influence that we shrug our shoulders and accept it as part of real life. Key word "accept". What cowards we are.
I don't expect to be told the information was published WITHIN THE GAME, which is where the contract exists. But I won't stop asking until one of those in the forum WHO HAS JUSTIFIED THIS admits that the information is NOT in the game.
Annette waits patiently.
EA never posted it and never will post it i have been playing video games for over 30 years i have been playing MMO's for the last 15 years I know this information to be true.... but if you want a written documented post you can try to find spAnsers post, but spAnser post are 100% speculation but he is usually right on with his predictions.
check out spAnsers site...
Snakeyees wrote:annettemarc wrote:Snakeyees wrote:LedoveeeKladivo wrote:LPNintendoITA wrote:
Till everyone understands what a Random number generator works this topic will keep appearing over and over and over.
The wheel is an RNG calculated as soon as the wheel is spun. No matter how fast or slow u spin it it will still be rng.
due to this and the fact the wheel is not designed well so lag and such gives u those results.
of course the rng is influenced by the chances of every item
Random number generator??? what the hell you are talking about? In last 10 days, I allways hit the same field with stupid 1000money. Only one field on my wheel of bad-luck is the money option. Now I have two tokens per day to try badluck and all the time the same. F*UCK this!!! Another great EA job (after Sim-City parody or Battlesh*t "or BattleBug" 4 release)!!!
RNG=Random number generator...... Used in a number of games everything from these type of games all the way up to MMO'S its here to stay. Let me try to explain you have 10 slots on the wheel each slot has a Number 1-10 some slots have a higher % chance to land on that number. when you enter the screen where you spin the wheel the game has already decided what number you going to land on 1-10 you spin the wheel the wheel speeds up or slows down to hit that mark. sometimes it missis that mark and goes one space further sometimes people get lucky and benefit this glitch sometimes they don't. IT IS WHAT IT IS
EA never posted it and never will post it i have been playing video games for over 30 years i have been playing MMO's for the last 15 years I know this information to be true.... but if you want a written documented post you can try to find spAnsers post, but spAnser post are 100% speculation but he is usually right on with his predictions.
check out spAnsers site http://tstonews.com/
Thank you. I love spAnser. I'm also blown away (in a positive sense) with your ability to understand the way RNG works, and more impressed that you can so clearly explain it in a way that even I can get. Thank you for that.
If you're right about EA not providing the facts, then they have indeed broken laws. It would have been legal on their part if they had me send my money to spAnser, though. ;)
LPNintendoITA wrote:
Till everyone understands what a Random number generator works this topic will keep appearing over and over and over.
The wheel is an RNG calculated as soon as the wheel is spun. No matter how fast or slow u spin it it will still be rng.
due to this and the fact the wheel is not designed well so lag and such gives u those results.
of course the rng is influenced by the chances of every item
MrWhiplash82 wrote:annettemarc wrote:
I'll ask for the third time on this forum and I will continue to ask until my question is answered satisfactorily. (Thus far, the silence has been deafening) WHERE has EA published this information WITHIN THEIR GAME so that the average but diligent player may read it?
For the free tokens, it is bad enough that they play typically sleazy corporate games. THAT is slimy, but not illegal.
But when I choose to give them real life money and (pay attention here.) WHEN THEY CHOOSE TO ACCEPT MY REAL LIFE MONEY, then, AT THAT MOMENT we have a real life, business CONTRACT. In my REAL LIFE law school Contracts class, i learned it is termed "offer and acceptance".
At that moment, they are LEGALLY bound to not misrepresent what they are SELLING. That is called FRAUD. When a business displays a wheel with EQUALLY SIZED wedges, I am not guaranteed any one of them more (listen up here) OR LESS THAN any of the others.
UNLESS the wheel displays true odds at those times I SPIN IT WITH A PAID FOR TOKEN, then UNDER CONTRACT, I am (here comes the word) ENTITLED to recompense.
I can't believe ANY of you can dare justify this. Wait. Of course I can. This nation has become so weakened by big business influence that we shrug our shoulders and accept it as part of real life. Key word "accept". What cowards we are.
I don't expect to be told the information was published WITHIN THE GAME, which is where the contract exists. But I won't stop asking until one of those in the forum WHO HAS JUSTIFIED THIS admits that the information is NOT in the game.
Annette waits patiently.
Do you have any form of legal background? I'm only asking because I've read briefs by actual lawyers that were a lot less sensical than what you wrote there.
I'm not entirely sure whether you are right, though; it is a game of chance, and the game states that clearly. I'm not sure whether the odds have to be reflected exactly (or at least approximately) in a game of chance, as well.
If one looks further into it, the fact that the game is available in different countries with different systems of law (I believe the UK and Australia have the same system, and the US system is at least derived from the UK one, but the systems of Germany and Italy have developed entirely independently from the Commonwealth system; then again the UK, Germany and Italy are part of the EU which has very strong consumer protection laws) makes that question even more intruiging. It's quite possibly (and not even unlikely) that this kind of gameplay is legal in some countries it's available and illegal in some others. I almost wish I was back in law school, as this game (and your posting) could inspire several theses at once...
Bottom line: You might be right. Then again, you might be wrong. I guess both points could be argued.
annettemarc wrote:
They managed to tick me off here. That's not easy to do :)
jonas_alexan wrote:
Am I the only one who got all the prizes without spending a single donut??
Also, why does EA "Owe" you these things? Nobody owes you anything. They are just extra prizes for the update.
annettemarc wrote:
Actually, in the case of the wheel, EA sort of stepped in it. When you look at their careful display of real odds in their Springfield Downs races, you can see that they understand the concept of full disclosure EVEN IN A GAME OF CHANCE. I am showaan the odds in plain print alongside each button. I can choose, in that game, to buy donuts with real life money, and they have chosen to inform me of the relative risks, odds, etc.
